Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....

[fullautovalmet76]

I will attempt the near impossible: I will pretend to be Obama and give my rationale for NOT moving ahead with an AWB right away; Tab's comments notwithstanding.

1. I want a second term! So I do not want to do anything too radical right away....

2. I have a global financial "crisis" that I must correct. I have to get an economic stimulus package through Congress and I have to be seen as actively managing this economy.

3. I have several international problems to deal with. I have to hurry up and withdraw troops from Iraq so I can send them to Afghanistan. And I must really show my mettle by capturing or killing Osama bin Laden. And if I can't do that, I will escalate the war over there to show I am serious about national security.

4. Since I know that the '94 AWB helped end Democratic Party rule in Congress, I am not about to stick my hand into a hornet's nest this time. I will outmaneuver my opponents on this issue by banning the importation of weapons and ammunition. I will implement changes in the manufacture of domestic ammunition to meet tougher environmental standards. These proposals will drive up the costs of owning and maintaining these weapons. All of these changes can be done without "taking" anyone's guns! I will regulate them to death!

5. If things are going swimmingly in year two or three, but not year 1 or 4, I might go for jugular then. If not I will bide my time till I get to my second term and then I will unleash seven different kinds of hell on their ass!

Now back to me. I don't think he'll go for it right away but I do believe one is coming. Just remember: the longer they take the stronger we can become. In an odd way, let's be thankful these other problems may have their attention for now.

[MikeBjerum]

key word... the gun culture is generally offensive to every one.

Lets just say you know nothing about guns...   When the leader of THE major gun owners groups( nra, every one knows of them)  say " from my cold dead hands"   what would that make you think of that group?

Let's put this in the perspective intended instead of out of context.  Go back one post when I first brought up offense.  It is a sports reference comparing offense vs. defense or leading the charge instead of reacting to it.  We need to set the agenda for gun issues and move on them instead of reacting to what the other side throws at us.

[TAB]

I know the context you ment... I'm just pointing out how most people see the pro gun community( when I say most people, I mean the ones that have no exp with guns. )

[Fatman]

key word... the gun culture is generally offensive to every one.

Lets just say you know nothing about guns...   When the leader of THE major gun owners groups( nra, every one knows of them)  say " from my cold dead hands"   what would that make you think of that group?

Makes me think I should belong to that group. Oh, wait! I am a life member. And as to replacing 'gun' with 'porn', it would have to be some ungodly HOT chick if they had to pry it from your cold, dead hands.

[MikeBjerum]

Makes me think I should belong to that group. Oh, wait! I am a life member. And as to replacing 'gun' with 'porn', it would have to be some ungodly HOT chick if they had to pry it from your cold, dead hands.

If we start replacing words what do we say when someone buys a new gun and doesn't give us pictures ... Post the Porn Porn?

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

replace gun with say, porn or drugs... still feel the same way?

TAB, You picked the wrong night to post this stupid sh!t. I had a rotten night at work and you intentional stupidity is the last straw. Short and simple so even a pin head  can understand, We have been talking for what a YEAR, 2 years , about "CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHTS", get that, "Constitutionally guaranteed", in other words CIVIL RIGHTS, just like MLK was bitching for 40 years ago. What it boils down to is if some one tries to take away my civil rights I will kill them, or die trying, maybe both. So be it, if that offends you, that a person actually has balls enough to say "no more", then I pity you ,as the say a MAN only dies once, while a coward dies every day.
Now go inflate your girlfriend and leave politics to those of us with a freaking clue.
 

PS If the Constitution said I had the God given right to smoke weed or crack my attitude would be the same toward them.

[TAB]

TAB, You picked the wrong night to post this stupid sh!t. I had a rotten night at work and you intentional stupidity is the last straw. Short and simple so even a pin head  can understand, We have been talking for what a YEAR, 2 years , about "CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHTS", get that, "Constitutionally guaranteed", in other words CIVIL RIGHTS, just like MLK was bitching for 40 years ago. What it boils down to is if some one tries to take away my civil rights I will kill them, or die trying, maybe both. So be it, if that offends you, that a person actualy has balls enough to say "no more", then I pity you ,as the say a MAN only dies once, while a coward dies every day.
Now go inflate your girlfriend and leave politics to those of us with a freaking clue.

explain to me how having a object and skin color are the same. 

[PegLeg45]

explain to me how having a object and skin color are the same. 

If the object, as it relates here, is a gun, and the skin color is regarding equality among human beings, then they are both protected under the Constitution.

[Pathfinder]

explain to me how having a object and skin color are the same. 

They're not the same. Self-appointed social activists in the guise of judges decided that skin color was important (after abuses in the South (and North) based on skin color), followed by Congress in 1964 passing the Civil Rights Act. Not a Constitutional Amendment, and Act of Congress. So no, not the same, and certainly not in your smug implication that skin color trumping the 2nd Amendment.

As for b-ho, I just posted this on MB's blog -

"As for b-ho, I'm wondering if b-ho might not leave us all hanging in the wind by doing nothing about guns for a while, citing issues with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the economy, mortgage bailouts, etc. as more important. Trying to lull us into a false sense of complacency.

Then, maybe late next year, he can laughingly point to the near hysterical buying and publicity, like the Rep. from GA who talked about b-ho forming a Nazi-like civilian security service. In the smug, smarmy way only he can, he can then tell us that we were all fools, see, he didn't take our guns away, we have nothing to fear, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, etc.

In the intervening period, he has put into place - quietly - the infrastructure necessary to move against the gun owners, after lulling us into that false sense of security.

I'm just saying . . ."

As an after thought, it would certainly build an even stronger base for "common sense " confiscations. OK, maybe he will have to do something to mollify the hard liner UN-lovers/lefties and ban imports with an EO, but time will tell who is right here.

[twyacht]

Very disconcerting, to the potential (keyword potential), of the next 4 years. The big AWB won't happen all at once. Nor any other restrictions to firearm purchases, or concealed carry.

BHO and the Dems have (believe it or not) actually "learned" how to push their agenda. Contrary to the old Dem playbook, it has morphed into a bit of the old and new. Kick the Republicans now that they have lost(revenge for the 2000 election thing),...
Oh, and use the blind lemmings momentum to support the Obamessiah's agenda.
From Pathfinder:
Then, maybe late next year, he can laughingly point to the near hysterical buying and publicity, like the Rep. from GA who talked about b-ho forming a Nazi-like civilian security service. In the smug, smarmy way only he can, he can then tell us that we were all fools, see, he didn't take our guns away, we have nothing to fear, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, etc.

In the intervening period, he has put into place - quietly - the infrastructure necessary to move against the gun owners, after lulling us into that false sense of security.

BHO's interview on NPR confirmed his anti-gun history in late Oct. (link on previous post), but he's too smart to do it all at one time.. He has the next potential 8 years to weasel restrictions six ways from Sunday.

Ammo tax, license tax, background checks, NICS checks, new form 4473 form next month, BATFE enforcement, FFL's, gun manufacturers, imported ammo, internet accessories for firearms...etc,...  how much info are you willing to provide to buy (6) 30 rd. magazines online?

Its coming, one way or another, and that frankly sucks. Let's see, gun sales sharply up,.....

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
Ronald Reagan (1986)

Obama hasn't read his history..

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
George Washington