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Re: Trivia
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2008, 04:42:52 PM »
What was the original intent for adding rifling to a firearm barrel?
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2009, 12:19:38 AM »
Quote from: PegLeg45 on December 31, 2008, 11:28:48 AM
Was it the .220 Swift?



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What of the 6mms? If the .223 is too light for pronghorns, why is the .243 approved for elk? At 3,150 fps, velocity for the 55-grain .223 bullet equals that of a 90-grain .243 bullet. Muzzle energies: 1,200 and 2,200 foot-pounds. But a bull elk outweighs a pronghorn buck 6 to 1.

We think of 6mm (.243) cartridges as modern. But the first of them appeared in the 1895 Lee straight-pull bolt rifle. Also known as the .236 Navy, the 6mm Lee Navy was a semi-rimmed round chambered in about 15,000 military rifles. Its 112-grain bullet ambled along at only 2,560 fps but could have been driven much faster had modern powders been available. That bullet was very long; rifling twist was 1:7-1/2. The 6mm Lee Navy died in 1935. Shortly thereafter, the .220 Swift was born of the same case.

http://www.rmef.org/Hunting/RifleCart/Rifles/LittleSixes.htm



You got it. The .220 Swift is the only caliber I know of based on a 6mm Lee Navy case. See where it says parent case in the box on the right side of the page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.220_Swift Most people don't know the Swift is semi-rimmed, even some people who shoot it. One guy was really surprised when I told him that about his own rifle. The rim is the same diameter as the .30-06 and over 100 other calibers, but the body of the case is skinnier.


The .243 Winchester is based on a .308 Winchester case and it's rimless, not semi-rimless, but thanks for playing, guys.  ;D
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2009, 12:20:35 AM »
Quote from: Timothy on December 31, 2008, 04:42:52 PM
What was the original intent for adding rifling to a firearm barrel?

To make it easier to load. Think "fouling" and "muzzle-loader" and you get the picture.
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2009, 12:26:40 AM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on December 31, 2008, 04:02:01 PM
Check this from Wiki pedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6mm_Lee_Navy

It does not mention the .243, that came from a site I found about the Spanish American war, but I can't find it now.


The 6mm served as the basis for the .220 Swift, which used a necked-down 6mm case. That's what I was talking about.  :)
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2009, 07:41:31 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on January 01, 2009, 12:20:35 AM
To make it easier to load. Think "fouling" and "muzzle-loader" and you get the picture.

Yes, it was done to prevent fouling of the barrel from lead build up giving the shooter more loads between cleanings of the barrel.  The first rifled barrel dates back to about 1498-1500.  The increased accuracy achieved was purely by accident as are most great inventions.
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Re: Trivia
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2009, 08:01:08 AM »
Who invented the 450 Bushmaster cartridge?
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2009, 08:14:13 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on January 01, 2009, 08:01:08 AM
Who invented the 450 Bushmaster cartridge?

Why Tim LeGendre of LeMag Firearms...of course.......... :)
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2009, 08:15:48 AM »
Yep. One day at work he showed me his .45 Professional cartridge that the 450 is based on. It's made from .284 Winchester cases cut off at the neck. He was making .475 Wildey Magnum cases from .284 and had a flash of genius - make it as long as possible and stick it in an AR-15. And he said that Gene Stoner told him it wouldn't work.
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2009, 04:36:20 PM »
What unit of measurement were Russian rifle sights callibrated for prior to 1930?
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Re: Trivia
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2009, 07:59:30 PM »
Here's a hint. It's equal to 28 inches. Now you know it's not a yard or a meter.
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