California courts on the right side?

[Thanos]

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California Court Says Christian School Can Expel Lesbian Students
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 
Calif. —  A California appeals court has ruled that a private Christian high school has the right to expel students because of an alleged lesbian relationship.

The 4th District Court of Appeal in Riverside on Monday upheld California Lutheran High School's right as a private, religious organization to exclude students based on their sexual orientation.

Two teens filed a lawsuit claiming they were discriminated against after they were expelled from the Wildomar school in 2005 because of an alleged lesbian relationship.

A court in Riverside found that the school had the right to expel the girls because the school isn't bound by the same anti-discrimination laws as a business establishment.

John McKay, attorney for California Lutheran, says the school's goal is to educate children based on Christian principles.

The attorney for the girls could not be immediately reached Tuesday.
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What is this world comming too? California Courts doing something I agree with? (I don't hate anyone, but I don't think everyone needs to be force to accept others)

It is a crazy world.

[PoorSoulInJersey]

How is discrimination the right side of anything (whether you agree with their cause or not)?

If they discriminated against gun owners because our weapons go against their religion, you'd be picketing them and calling everyone you knew to complain about it.

What's that poem about "no one was there when they came for me"?

[Rastus]

How is discrimination the right side of anything (whether you agree with their cause or not)?

If they discriminated against gun owners because our weapons go against their religion, you'd be picketing them and calling everyone you knew to complain about it.

What's that poem about "no one was there when they came for me"?

What is it that defines this as discrimination?

[PoorSoulInJersey]

What is it that defines this as discrimination?

I always thought of "discrimination" as treating someone differently just because you didn't like something about them or that was different about them. There are more technical and legal definitions, but to me "discrimination" could be as much about race or sexual orientation as it could be country folk vs city folk or any other nebulous  "us" vs "them" designation you'd care to make up (Star Wars vs Star Trek fans, maybe).

If you change the names a little, if an all Caucasian school kicks out two African American kids for being African American, there would be riots outside the school. Or, to use my original example, if the school kicked out two kids because they owned guns and belonged to the NRA (which go against their religion), we'd be saying every bad thing about the school we can think of.

Now personally, I can't imagine why a lesbian couple, who will be told by the school that they are going to hell for their ways, would want to go to that school. But that's not the point. Heck, I grew up in 12 years of Catholic education, and we were pretty much all convinced that we were all going to hell no matter what we did or didn't do. But that's STILL not the point. Fifty years ago, it was acceptable to intentionally break kids into separate schools because of their skin color. Today it's not. Any time you treat someone differently just for being different (not for violating some pre-set, defensible rule), I'd call that discrimination.

The court is now giving that school the ability to do anything it wants if someone doesn't comply with their "Christian principles". You'd better hope none of their parents get divorced or that none of the students miss church one week, or they could be the next ones to be expelled.

I get really touchy about groups being given special privileges to do whatever they want because "my religion says so." With so many religions out there, it's going to eventually let someone somewhere have an exception to do almost anything: kill, maim, rape... hey, why not? Because we didn't draw a line early on with discrimination.

[tombogan03884]

Being and having are two widely separate things. They were not expelled for BEING gay. They were expelled for an "Alleged lesbian relationship" that leads me to assume they had sex, this was a high school presumably the were underage, or really dumb. under age sex is a crime "Statutory Rape", so this is no more "discrimination" than if they were expelled for having pot.
So Poorsoul, after all that typing your rant is as ridiculous as one of TAB's. I'll give you a tip, don't drink the water in NJ, that's how Jay stays sane.   

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[TAB]

No rape envoled if they were they were under 18. 

if they were cuagh having sex or making out on campus, they could expell them for that act.  Infact that would be easy and I doubt it would even make it to trial. 

There has to be more to this story. 

If the shcool has good reason to beleave they are lesbos, ( pics, messages, cuaght in the act... etc)   then I have np with them expelling them.   If its just a rummer then I have a do have a prob with them being expelled.

[tombogan03884]

2 things TAB,
1) use spellcheck
2) what about that Black kid in Ga. who went to jail for getting a blowjob from a 15 year old girl when he was 17 ?

[TAB]

2 things TAB,
1) use spellcheck
2) what about that Black kid in Ga. who went to jail for getting a blowjob from a 15 year old girl when he was 17 ?

Thats GA, not CA.  I beleave in GA the age of consent is 16.  in CA its 18, minors ingauging in sex is a infraction ( ticket)

[runstowin]

How is discrimination the right side of anything (whether you agree with their cause or not)?

How about the definition of discrimination.

: the quality or power of finely distinguishing

I discriminate against murders, rapist, and sodomites, it's a no brainer.

This Christian school has it's own standards and rules, that is their rightful choice. If these two miscreants don't like the rules they should leave and go to a school that suits them, instead of suing. After all going to a private school is voluntary, and it is a privilege, not a right.

[Rob10ring]

This was not discrimination. To force them to keep the lesbians in the school would have been, but against the school. The school is private and is part of a religious organization. They have rules against homosexuality and even post these beliefs in their "statement of faith." This isn't about civil rights, it's about others trying to show christianity in a bad light, just as when we had to fight to get Proposition 8 passed in CA. Nobody is saying that it would be OK for public schools to boot someone for their sexual orientation, but no one should be able to tell others how their church is run.