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Rob10ring

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 11:19:55 PM »
Thats GA, not CA.  I beleave in GA the age of consent is 16.  in CA its 18, minors ingauging in sex is a infraction ( ticket)
You've got to question any state that feels that the age of consent should be 16! I heard that NV is that way too. I imagine some freaky 50 year old dude thought it would be great to bang a 16 year old child. Isn't that why we have guns?

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 11:20:34 PM »
How is discrimination the right side of anything (whether you agree with their cause or not)?
If they discriminated against gun owners because our weapons go against their religion, you'd be picketing them and calling everyone you knew to complain about it.
What's that poem about "no one was there when they came for me"?

Well, first of all, You can be discriminated against. By ANYONE except the government as long as it does not infringe on areas that the government has mandated as theirs to control (Heart of Atlanta Motel v. United States, note the reasoning on how they ruled)

Why as a business owner should you not be allowed to give services to those who you do not wish to? This is exactly the point that you made in your comment, what if someone (the government) came in and told the owner of a business (a church that owns a school) that they have to capitulate and go against their religious beliefs and allow people (person's that offend the very basis of their moral values) to stay and be served by the business owner? That would be a Constitutional violation. There is nothing in the Constitution that says that you must provide something for anyone, as a matter of fact there IS something in the Constitution about not having to work for someone when you don't want too. (Hint: we fought a war over it)

I am discriminated against all the time by companies that don't like my gun. Ever go to a mall? it is probably owned by Simon, and if I recall, they have a NO gun policy in their malls. (Not like it stops gangbangers) But everytime you go to a mall they have the right to ask you to not be armed or not come onto their property. It is also a property rights issue. And remarkably, no one seems to be bothered by it enough to picket.

I defend everyone's right to be what ever they choose, (within the confines of the law) but no one person's percived right should trump another's to be free from another. (there is a SCOTUS case that something like that was said concerning privacy)

This is also a private school, ie private business. Public schools cannot do this and nor do I think they should be allowed. Or if they accept federal money. But in my opinion an Aryan Nations school should be allowed (If not tax dollars go for the funding) to prevent anyone they want or don't to attend their school.

Aryans (as dumb as I think they are) have the same Constitutional rights that I do. If I don't protect theirs to be free from interference, I can expect the government to interfere in my private life too.


(Disclaimer: I am not advocating bigotry in any way shape or form. I am advocating a private business being able to not serve those they don't want to.)

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2009, 11:22:29 PM »
2 things TAB,
1) use spellcheck
2) what about that Black kid in Ga. who went to jail for getting a blowjob from a 15 year old girl when he was 17 ?

I think that kid got a pardon. It was a debacle what happened with him and the legal age thing was what got him. But I am pretty sure he got out a couple years ago.

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2009, 11:23:26 PM »
All private schools in CA recieve public funds as well...  Yeah its one of the many things in ed system in CA that needs to be fixed...
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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 12:48:43 AM »
All private schools in CA recieve public funds as well...  Yeah its one of the many things in ed system in CA that needs to be fixed...
Just because some of our tax dollars go to a private school doesn't mean that the school doesn't have the right to have their own rules or observe their religious beliefs. The state shoots down the idea of a voucher program every time it comes up. If I want to send my kids to a private school, I should be able to reserve my education money for how I want to spend it. However, the state takes it, so that they can fund public schools, which are not making par. It's only right that some of our money goes to the private schools too, until they approve a voucher program. Maybe we should have tacked that on to prop 8.

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Re: California courts on the right side?
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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 01:01:34 AM »
All private schools in CA recieve public funds as well...  Yeah its one of the many things in ed system in CA that needs to be fixed...

Of course, I think the governemnt does a horrible job at education and it should be left to the free market.

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 01:27:38 AM »
Just because some of our tax dollars go to a private school doesn't mean that the school doesn't have the right to have their own rules or observe their religious beliefs. The state shoots down the idea of a voucher program every time it comes up. If I want to send my kids to a private school, I should be able to reserve my education money for how I want to spend it. However, the state takes it, so that they can fund public schools, which are not making par. It's only right that some of our money goes to the private schools too, until they approve a voucher program. Maybe we should have tacked that on to prop 8.


The way I see it, if you take money from the goverment the goverment has some oversite into what you do with that money.  If you don't like that, don't take the money.    I don't see that as being too much to ask.


Not all public schools are bad, just like not all private schools are good. 

having a client that is the current head of education in CA( arnie appointed her last year), the storys she has told me were down right shocking about what goes on in education. 
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2009, 03:10:46 AM »

The way I see it, if you take money from the goverment the goverment has some oversite into what you do with that money.  If you don't like that, don't take the money.    I don't see that as being too much to ask.


Not all public schools are bad, just like not all private schools are good. 

having a client that is the current head of education in CA( arnie appointed her last year), the storys she has told me were down right shocking about what goes on in education. 
It should be the other way around. If the government takes money from us, we should have some say. If the government didn't take the money in the first place, the people could decide where they wanted to spend their education dollars and maybe private schools wouldn't need to get it from the government. All public schools aren't all that bad, just most of them and the way the districts spend the money is bad across the board. Most people aren't that impressed with Arnie either.

Who are you talking about? Jack O'Connell is the Superintendent of Education and Glen Thomas is the Secretary of Education as of Jan. 23rd.

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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2009, 03:20:23 AM »
you do have a choice on how your tax money is spent... its called elcetions. 
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Re: California courts on the right side?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2009, 04:23:01 AM »
you do have a choice on how your tax money is spent... its called elcetions. 
Believe me, I'm voting, but it's a tough road in CA for those of of us on the right or in the right. It doesn't change the fact that government's purpose was never supposed to be to take all of the money and make every decision for us.

 

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