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What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« on: February 02, 2009, 09:38:34 PM »
In the politics section, there is a post from runstowin...........

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We individually as households need to get prepared for disasters. I have not done everything I need to do (it is a work in progress) but i have done the following: Bought a Berkey Lite water filter, it can filter a lot of water per day, and it was designed to be used with raw water ( I live 6 tenths of a mile from a creek), freezed dried food, paper plates, towels, napkins, cups, trash bags, surgical type gloves, sleeping bags, insulated boots thermo socks, 4 mountain bikes, plastic utensils, cash, Ragnar's Urban Survival, etc.
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This got me to thinking. I know that there are lots of articles and lists out there for "survival necessities"..
but some of them are way over the top .. ( unless of course we hit the bottom of the well).
Which very well could happen..
 But I also know that it seems that we who live in small town rural country.. to those who live in the cities seem to have different gear stashed away.

 I guess I would like to know who has what and how much do you keep on hand ...
I have food, but then .. the expiration dates are a factor.  and some things..but honestly?  I bet if the s**t hit the fan... I would be short some things I hadn't thought of..
I need to be doing some research on water filters.. ( one that doesn't take electricity and one that does)
is there some items and brands that are better than others?
We have a huge lake on our property.. BUT.. what scares me is "what if the water is polluted by fly overs?? "what then?

 I know that several of the people who I run around with "talk" about starting to gather stuff up, but they haven't yet.. and I think that is the way of a lot of people.

Just want to kick some stuff around and pick your brains on this.

runstowin had a great list to start out with.. so lets add to it..

If you were helping people
"be prepared" on a limited budget.. what would you help them gather up. ?
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 10:15:56 PM »
I have a couple of small filters, we keep several cases of bottled water on hand, Lots of canned goods(my wife likes sale items), tuna and other canned meats, and the one thing you can't have enough of ammo. Fire wood and extra blankets we always have on hand. About the only thing we don't keep alot of is gasoline(noway to store a large amount). We have tried to keep ahead of the game for awhile now.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 10:19:02 PM »
Well, that is a GREAT idea, after all, there are people dying right now from the ice storm. I have been thinking a lot about preparedness lately. And just to throw another idea out there, what does anyone think is needed expressly for short term survival in this situation for the spouse and kids in case the main person in charge of this sort of thing is away from home on business or where ever? My wife is very capable and has a lot of common sense, when it comes to being in the situation. Just none when it comes to preparedness. :(. I can only do so much before she is ready to call the looney squad on me because, of course, "That wouldn't happen here."   ::) ::) ::)
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 10:43:00 PM »
First and foremost you must have something between your ears besides slogans and vacuum. All the "Stuff" in the world won't save you if you don't use your brain. I tell everybody to go to http://www.survivalblog.com/ I have posted a few articles there myself.

After that;

Water, some form of water purification even if that just means the ability to boil the stuff. Google "Field expedient water purification"

Food, yes you may have guns and you may be able to hunt and farm, but can you do it NOW? Will the game be available when you go out to hunt? Food takes many weeks to grow (mostly), so what do you do till the crops are in? Don't waste money buying long term storage food if you can't afford it. Go here http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/yf/foods/fn579-1.htm and buy the stuff you would buy anyway.

TOOLS! Do you have what you need to keep your guns running? Your car? Own an Axe (and know how to use it)? Do you have gardening tools, or do you expect the plants to naturally bore into the ground and spring up full blown? Can you turn a deer or fish into food. or do you expect them to spontaneously convert into plastic wrapped cuts of meat? How good are your kitchen knives, will they last a life time or do you have to go to Wally World every couple years? Do you have a shovel? Find what you use or what other people use for you and figure out if you really have what it takes, like plumbing, car repair, electrical work (including converting to use alternative sources of energy like batteries and generators for things like light). I myself have been suffering because I have no axe here in Montana, no axe means no wood for the wood burning stove, that is a major problem for me (but one I will solve next week). Do you have a way to burn wood without burning your house down or suffocating everyone? You can build things to replace much of what society has made cheap for use (food, heat, water, sewerage, shelter) but without tools you may not live long enough to do it.

Guns, for hunting and defense, but also PEST CONTROL, pests eat more food than people and will starve you to death if you have no way to eliminate them. You don't want to risk killing your own animals or yourself with poisons and traps can only do so much. A good pellet rifle is a wonderful thing, and 100,000 pellets is a heck of a lot cheaper than even .22lr's. Don't forget about parts and magazines or you will have some very fancy clubs.

SALT, Matches, Lighters & fuel, without salt you die, and unless you live near the sea you cannot make your own (most mines are contaminated with Potassium Chloride which is poisonous). Most people who think about survivalism think about fire-starters (magnesium blocks, blast match, etc.) which are cool, but a bucket load of book matches and cheap disposable lighters, to say nothing about a Zippo, a few hundred flints and a few gallons of fuel will be far better for day to day use, to say nothing of trading with those of less foresight.

Medicine, including prescription meds as well as the general stuff for trauma and disease. Don't forget your prescription glasses as well.

I'll quit now as this could go on for months. Hit Survivalblog.com for more.

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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 11:03:17 PM »
wow................ I learned lots..............
and I will go to the sites..and do more research.

To most of my friends...I am considered kind of 'over the edge' .
They think ( up to a point) the way I do.. but they still have that head in the sand.. it isn't going to get ""That Bad"... and it might happen in the city.. but it won't affect us way  out here mentality..

whatever............I quit arguing with them about it.  ::)
 
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 11:13:22 PM »
Good post Warhawke. If you are talking long term the lists could go on forever. My post was more short term(ice or snow storm).
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 11:16:42 PM »
I think any information from everyone in all areas can be used and learned from..
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 11:17:25 PM »
I need to be doing some research on water filters.. ( one that doesn't take electricity and one that does)
is there some items and brands that are better than others?

I have been using my  Berkey Lite every day for over 3 years to filter my tap water, needs no electricity and it is portable.
There are other models available, mine is polycarbonate, others are stainless steel.
I bought mine from Radio Liberty.com
This site is a part of the ministry of Dr, Stan Monteith, very knowledgeable and a true patriot. He has lots of good information to read and to buy.     Links below.

http://www.radioliberty.com/berkey.html

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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 11:23:44 PM »
Both of my filters are the pump kind you use for camping
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 01:29:43 AM »
Your preps should go from;
Oh Dang, the lights went out. To
Oh Darn, I lost my job. To
Oh Damn, things are getting ugly. To
Oh Hell, the store was empty with hungry looking people outside. To
Holy Crap, Riots and Looters and Gangs oh My. To
Holy Shit, Zombies (or mushroom clouds, aliens {the green kind}, whatever).

You can stop at any point you feel events are likely to clam down and return to normal at. However, if you have sufficient preparations you can handle just about any situation well. I prepared for TEOTWAWKI but my preps have helped my through injury, unemployment and a host of everyday oops's. Heck, I would be in much worse shape now if it were not for the stuff I had and learned as a survivalist. I have however learned how much I need to work on since my move to Montana. Preparation, like perfection, is a road, not a destination.
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