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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 03:20:59 AM »
Just a guess, but I would be surprised to see the 10/22 offered in any caliber that requires MUCH more than a change in barrel/chamber,

Yup.  Barrel chambering and bolt redesign..which should be a drop in with bigger springs.
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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 05:43:59 AM »
How about the Ruger Police Carbine in 5.7? That might be similar. Bring back the Police Carbine!

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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2009, 12:22:04 PM »
I love the idea of a light semiauto varmnit/truck gun Rastus, but there is little chance of Ruger spending the money to develop a new semiauto centerfire now. It would however be easy(cheap) for Ruger to offer a 77/22 version in 5.7x28. The 10/5.7 would however be the perfect fox rifle.

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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 02:08:49 PM »
Rastus, 2 big things if barrel and bolt could be made, the cartridge length is 1.137" for the 5.7 and only .590" for the .22 lr, and even the 22 mag is only 1.052" long, where would you get magazines. The diameter is much bigger as well.  Maybe an M1 carbine, but they are worth too much now. You can get a 5.7 upper for an AR15, that takes the FN 50 round mags, but last I looked 6-700 bucks.
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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2009, 06:23:36 AM »
Rastus, 2 big things if barrel and bolt could be made, the cartridge length is 1.137" for the 5.7 and only .590" for the .22 lr, and even the 22 mag is only 1.052" long, where would you get magazines. The diameter is much bigger as well.  Maybe an M1 carbine, but they are worth too much now. You can get a 5.7 upper for an AR15, that takes the FN 50 round mags, but last I looked 6-700 bucks.

That upper is really cool, but I've got the PS-90 and don't want to remove the uppers I have from the lowers I have...of course that would be a reason to hook up with a new lower. ...maybe get that Tactical Solution upper too and swap from upper to upper...  But, anyway, I'd prefer something that didn'thave the gas blowback system, etc.. for whatever reason.  Maybe it's just the with all the hullabaloo for EBR's I am EBR'd out...I did pick up a Ruger Hawkeye the other day.

And yes...it's a tad longer...but ought to not take much changing in to go to 5.7.  A minor change to machine the chamber of the barrel...the bolt is a block of metal, just machine the firing pin in center, change a couple of springs...voila'.  Now..that extra 1/10 inch on the mag...I dunno if that would require a change in the receiver machining or not...I was supposing not but I could be wrong, 

If Tactical Solutions would spring a conversion kit for a 10/22 I'd snap it up but there would have to be enough interest from the public to get Tacsol or Ruger interested.  It's just with handloads you could zip a 40 gr Vmax at 2,500 or so and be zero at 50 and zero at 100, plus or minus in a "conventional" package without gas blowback....the PS-90, being a bullpup, isn't my ideal for hunting.....
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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2009, 11:49:26 AM »
That upper is really cool, but I've got the PS-90 and don't want to remove the uppers I have from the lowers I have...of course that would be a reason to hook up with a new lower. ...maybe get that Tactical Solution upper too and swap from upper to upper...  But, anyway, I'd prefer something that didn'thave the gas blowback system, etc.. for whatever reason.  Maybe it's just the with all the hullabaloo for EBR's I am EBR'd out...I did pick up a Ruger Hawkeye the other day.

And yes...it's a tad longer...but ought to not take much changing in to go to 5.7.  A minor change to machine the chamber of the barrel...the bolt is a block of metal, just machine the firing pin in center, change a couple of springs...voila'.  Now..that extra 1/10 inch on the mag...I dunno if that would require a change in the receiver machining or not...I was supposing not but I could be wrong, 

If Tactical Solutions would spring a conversion kit for a 10/22 I'd snap it up but there would have to be enough interest from the public to get Tacsol or Ruger interested.  It's just with handloads you could zip a 40 gr Vmax at 2,500 or so and be zero at 50 and zero at 100, plus or minus in a "conventional" package without gas blowback....the PS-90, being a bullpup, isn't my ideal for hunting.....

Rastus, These are not "minor" changes. The differences in dimensions require completely new blue prints, fixtures,and  programs. these have to be made, tested, inspected (requires new inspection criteria and processes to be certified), debugged, reinspected, operators trained on new program and inspection requirements. Also the new assembly, (whole gun) has to be tested and probably will require some redesign to parts affected by the increased recoil. to sell how many units ? One of the biggest selling points of the 10/22 is that it is the cheap to shoot .22 caliber, IF the larger caliber is as reliable as the current .22 then it's STILL just another center fire .22 that would be competing with their own Mini 14. It would cut into the Mini 14 market without generating enough sales to repay the R&D costs. Sorry, it might happen, but I would not hold my breath waiting.

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Re: New Ruger 10/..err 22 Wanted....Call it a 10/57 or maybe 10/C.....????
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2009, 09:25:21 PM »
Yeah...well....maybe somebody will make one.
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