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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 09:36:39 AM »
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5778.0.html    :)



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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 11:53:52 AM »
Mike Adams, NaturalNews Editor writes, "The American people will not be forewarned of the collapse of the dollar. It will be a sudden, surprise announcement, and all the politicians and banking elitists who engineered the whole thing will pronounce their "shock" that such a thing could happen!" http://www.counterthink.com/025688.html

And mind you, none of this ever could have happened without their being complicity amongst those we elect along party lines (there being no difference between republicans and democrats -- except in the mind of we the people who'll be left holding the bag of poo when the dust all settles...when what ever is slated to hit here within our beloved country toward their end goals won't effect the GW Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, Ashcrofts, Bonds, Specters, Pelosies of our nation one bit -- their futures being what it's always been at tax payers' expense: pure gravy...)

Is also why I refer folks to infowars.com and Alex Jones, among others: because of Alex Jones extensive research and study has been able to give the most comprehensive rendition of the total and complete hoodwinking going on against the American people by the elites working through our elected politicians in any one place there is that one can go to; and virtually everyone from Ron Paul to Richard Mack, to eugenicists (other scientists) and researchers, to Chuck Baldwin to top ex-military commanders and law enforcements personnel et al meet to discuss these serious issues facing the United States and its people - mainstream media for acquiring news and information is a joke in line with the propaganda machine of historical noteworthiness; of which I'll not mention any names since I trust you gun owner and 2nd Amendment 'rights' advocates (my self being one) are able to connect dots as well as I can...

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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 01:11:00 PM »
[; and virtually everyone from Ron Paul to Richard Mack, to eugenicists (other scientists) and researchers, to Chuck Baldwin to top ex-military commanders and law enforcements personnel et al meet to discuss these serious issues facing the United States and its people -I can... [/i]

Just so I understand you correctly, are Paul, Mack, the Eugenicists Baldwin and various commanders the good guys, or the bad guys here? I wasnt sure whether you were lumping them in with other mainstream pols and scientists or not. The reason I ask is that I don't want to slam you for something you weren't saying.
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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 02:01:07 PM »

Just so I understand you correctly, are Paul, Mack, the Eugenicists Baldwin and various commanders the good guys, or the bad guys here? I wasnt sure whether you were lumping them in with other mainstream pols and scientists or not. The reason I ask is that I don't want to slam you for something you weren't saying.
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Thanks for the opportunity to expound before you lower the boom!

I'm saying there's those who believe America is a Constitutional Republic that God ordained (one in which everyone - and I mean "EVERYONE" - is all under the same rules and laws whether a president or someone living in the poor house); which those I've cited are for advancing against the delusion regarding this socialist democracy we've got now - democracy being euphemism for socialism/communism etc ...(also know, democracy depends less on absolutes and right and wrong preferring to reside in areas of gray because gray is synonymous with 'confusion' in which they can then fudge the rules and laws such that what the rules and laws mean for us is different than it means for them...etc...)

The power really is, regardless of what DC has to say about it, with the individual states via their own state constitutions coupled with the 9th and 10th amendments...and governors and state governments having the guts to stand up for what is rightfully theirs'.

As I'd said before, those who'll poo-poo Alex Jones as a nutwing/what-not do so at their and our mutual peril...all these individuals I cite here have been interviewed on regular basis on Alex Jones infowar.com radio program and site...

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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 02:25:34 PM »
Thanks for the opportunity to expound before you lower the boom!


Just trying to be fair. I'll get back to you on the states rights thing, but I was actually asking about the eugenics thing. Are you on board with them or no?
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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2009, 03:03:50 PM »
Thanks for the opportunity to expound before you lower the boom!


Just trying to be fair. I'll get back to you on the states rights thing, but I was actually asking about the eugenics thing. Are you on board with them or no?
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I hope your definition of fair isn't the same as in: Fair and Balanced of the Fox News Channel variety? : )

Eugenics; I'm opposed to it...and is being used as a tool along political lines just as the FDA CDC surgeon general's office, dang near everything today in America is political and going to be used to advance one agenda over another under 'supposed' party lines...

Hope that answers your question...



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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 05:59:05 PM »
Thanks VinBea... You said what I couldn't put into words.  :)
 Tinfoil or not.. I tend to find that it hits extremely close to home in the truth sector....But that is just my own opinion.

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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2009, 08:28:40 PM »
M'lette, I have to apologize for posting this because you are fine human being, but you look better without the tinfoil. ;) The very name of the site thats hosting this, Prison Planet, should send off a warning signal. Conspiracy theories are seductive because they appear logical. All these bad things are happening right now. It can't be a coincedence can it? Its surely not OUR fault or the result of random chance? No, there's someone behind it, pulling the strings. Here are all these connections, however superficial they may be. The reason no one alse knows is because THEY (insert your favorite they) are behind it, but WE know better, lets educate the "sheeple". This kind of thinking has gone on for as long as there have been humans. Never yet have we seen something (The Roman Empire, the communists, the Catholic Church etc) that was able to pull it off simply because a conspiracy like this requires a degree of agency that simply doesn't exist in the real world. All of our set backs are the result of enemy action their's are mere ploys. It just doesn't stand up to the giggle test. Here is a response I wrote to Phil from Australia about this same post on an earlier thread.

No offense mate, but I think standing upside down, down there has gotten to you, all that blood rushing to your head and all . The one thing you need to know about America is that our wing nuts love a good conspiracy theory. This seems more prevalent on the right than the left, but the lefties are no slouches either. Its been that way since the beggining of the Republic. Got laid off? The wife getting uppity? The kids turning queer and the dogs looking at you funny? Not to worry! Its the witches,Masons, Catholics, Irishmen, abolitionist race mixers, the slave power conspiracy, the Crown, the reds, the jews (can't forget the jews in any good conspiracy theory [just ask Mel Gibson] and bonus points if the house of Rothschild gets mentioned), the Mexican irrendentists reclaiming "Azatlan", the UN, the drug cartels, the New World Order, or if all else fails the Anti-Christ his ownself. Insert two or more of the following and you've got a website. Add three and some ersatz history and a book deal will follow, maybe a movie if you can quote Bible phrophesy. Its just an American disease. There's a great classic book called "The Paranoid Style In American Politics" by Richard Hoffstadter. It was written in the fifties and traces the writings of these whack jobs. The funny thing is that the narrative is exactly the same,the only thing that changes is the name of the bad guys. Its always what happens in times of economic and social upheaval here in the US of A. Other countries riot, we put on tinfoil hats and wait for the End Times. As Hunter S Thompson put it, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro". Its just an American thing, no worries.
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...yeah, right! You're right! But I have a birth certificate and know where I came from; have an honorably discharge papers as a vet too...plus some over 25 years of studying this stuff (and though I've never written a book...generally used to define for people what an 'expert' is and/or isn't...I think I've learned a few things in my 45 years on planet X...) doesn't make void the fact you was all right and I was all wrong...

You have your definition of nutwing; and now you know I have mine....or am I not allowed to have my opinion? Perhaps you're one of them there paid operatives working on behalf of Obamanation? I mean, we know zillions of dollars just disappeared and that a lot of funds have been funneled back-door into pushing "Hussein's" agenda by infiltrating various organizations at the grass roots level...


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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2009, 08:35:03 PM »

Kiss my ass...........









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Re: The Obama Deception Full length version
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2009, 10:34:07 PM »

No offense mate, but I think standing upside down, down there has gotten to you, all that blod rushing to your head and all ;). The one thing you need to know about America is that our wing nuts love a good conspiracy theory. This seems more prevalent on the right than the left, but the lefties are no slouches either. Its been that way since the beggining of the Republic. Got laid off? The wife getting uppity? The kids turning queer and the dogs looking at you funny? Not to worry! Its the witches,Masons, Catholics, Irishmen, abolitionist race mixers, the slave power conspiracy, the Crown, the reds, the jews (can't forget the jews in any good conspiracy theory [just ask Mel Gibson] and bonus points if the house of Rothschild gets mentioned), the Mexican irrendentists reclaiming "Azatlan", the UN, the drug cartels, the New World Order, or if all else fails the Anti-Christ his ownself. Insert two or more of the following and you've got a website. Add three and some ersatz history and a book deal will folow, maybe a movie if you can quote Bible phrophesy. Its just an American didease. There's a great classic book called "The Paranoid Style In American Politics" by Richard Hoffstadter. It was written in the fifties and traces the writings of these whack jobs. The funny thing is that the narrative is exactly the same,the only thing that changes is the name of the bad guys. Its always what happens in times of economic and social upheaval here in the US of A. Othere countries riot, we put on tinfoil hats and wait for the End Times. As Hunter S Thompson put it, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro". Its just an American thing, no worries.
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I haven't read where you provide any evidence that any of the claims made by this film is a fraud or hoax. Instead of casting aspersions, why don't you watch it, research the claims made, and post your research and shut up Alex Jones, and those like him, once and for all?

I have researched some of what he has said, and can say that based upon what I have looked at I can say he has some credibility, though I am still skeptical of other things he says.

In case you missed it, the Prime Minister of England, Gordon Brown, has called for a "new world order" or a one world governing body that will help synchronize the financial systems of the world. Not long after, Vladimir Putin called for a universal currency that would replace the U.S. dollar as the de facto universal currency. Next, the Chi-coms echoed the same sentiment. And lastly, our own treasury secretary says he thinks that may be a good idea too. What's wrong with creating this financial "Tower of Babel"? Think about it: one universal governing body controlling all of the world's economies. By extension, that means controlling you and I.

The really sophisticated people like you will dismiss all of this as just another paranoid delusion by some troglodytes who probably should be put into those alleged FEMA camps anyway.....

 

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