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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #100 on: April 25, 2009, 08:01:46 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on April 25, 2009, 06:43:22 PM
I wish the new cars looked new instead of 40 years old. Can't they come up with anything better?

Unfortunately,,,,NO The cars that we wish we could stand a chance of owning are deemed "prototypes" for release in 2012, or some other long term project.

Designers outpace the actual manufacturing process exponentially. It looks good on paper but in proto testing problems A,B,C,D, etc,... rear their ugly head.

Toyota and Honda can use an existing line to make many different models. Here in the US, we have to go through a "process" to change a line. Unions have their rules, overtime, scheduling, tooling, etc,...

By the time "someone" realized trouble, revamping the mustang, challenger, camaro(still waiting), is all they could muster. Ford seems to have planned for the worst better than the others. Legacy costs are eating them all up.

I had a 86 Mustang 5.0, and liked it alright, the first Anniversary Edition Stang was "designed" for the comeback of the 351 Cleveland, well the front suspension could not handle the extra weight, and handling was crap. Pretty much awesome if going only straight. Motor Trend mag has this archived in the late 80's.

The "New" looking cars take to long for delivery and cost more than the price point for sales with volume.

Yeah, they will sell some Shelby's, ZO-6 Twin Callaway Turbo Vettes, 750hp Vipers,  for $75,000+ but it won;t keep them afloat.







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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2009, 12:05:49 AM »
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I had a 86 Mustang 5.0

... As did I!!!  Convertible... H-system Exhaust... Hurst C3..... Loved that car! This will actually be the first "muscle car" I've owned since then......

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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2009, 07:03:54 PM »
This Camaro looks okay but it's not my favorite color.
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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #103 on: April 29, 2009, 03:52:49 PM »
There's this option I just saw:

Hurst Challenger
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090429/CARREVIEWS/904299994

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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2009, 08:23:18 PM »
$70,000.  :o  Wow, that's a lot of money.
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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #105 on: April 29, 2009, 08:31:14 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on April 29, 2009, 08:23:18 PM
$70,000.  :o  Wow, that's a lot of money.

For 70 large, give me a Corvette!  You won't become a guinea pig for a new model.....
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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #106 on: April 29, 2009, 08:35:23 PM »
Drove a vette for a couple of days last week... not even close on the practical side. Fun to drive or a few hours... but the fact is that sitting it reminded almost exactly as the 1984 'vette that I was driving 20 years ago. I'm also not a big fan of the "membership" pricing...

As for the Hurst, its wayyy more than I want to spend on a car, and it only comes in manual. How can I run the laptop and check in at DRTV while driving between courses if I'm worried about shifting? 

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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #107 on: April 29, 2009, 08:49:10 PM »
It's a automobile young man!  Not your living room!      ;D

Jeez, you kids these days and your toys......no kids of your own yet Rob? :)
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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #108 on: April 30, 2009, 02:48:16 PM »


Look at the future of Chrysler, the new improved 2011 Belvadere Retro-Mod...

43 bhp & 22 lb/ft of torque at the front wheels!


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Re: Car People: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS
« Reply #109 on: April 30, 2009, 09:50:52 PM »
Quote from: Timothy on April 30, 2009, 02:48:16 PM


Look at the future of Chrysler, the new improved 2011 Belvadere Retro-Mod...

43 bhp & 22 lb/ft of torque at the front wheels!


 ;D

Here's the first run of gubmint cars.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSkyX36el8c

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