Pirates hijack ship with 20 Americans onboard

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anyone else see the irony in the fact that the ship had food aid for africa in it?

no more food aid, til the priacy stops.

[twyacht]

anyone else see the irony in the fact that the ship had food aid for africa in it?

no more food aid, til the priacy stops.

International Law regarding piracy "used to be" clear cut, and goes back to the Vikings, Phonecians, Greeks, etc,...

The cargo is irrelevant to these thugs. They want the ransom money.

We suffered a loss in Somalia in the past, ie the "Black Hawk Down Days", its a lawless, brutal rogue nation.

I can;t believe we are putting up with this crap.

The yachts I work on ALL have something for ship defense, except for a few, (mostly the French Catamarans), its better than nothing.

It's time to take these maritime gangbanger wannabe's down.....

Some have a freakin arsenal. 

[Harmony Hermit]

Time to resurrect the "Q" ships of WW1 vintage .

[tombogan03884]

International Law regarding piracy "used to be" clear cut, and goes back to the Vikings, Phonecians, Greeks, etc,...

The cargo is irrelevant to these thugs. They want the ransom money.

We suffered a loss in Somalia in the past, ie the "Black Hawk Down Days", its a lawless, brutal rogue nation.

I can;t believe we are putting up with this crap.

The yachts I work on ALL have something for ship defense, except for a few, (mostly the French Catamarans), its better than nothing.

It's time to take these maritime gangbanger wannabe's down.....

Some have a freakin arsenal. 

Somalia is not a "rogue Regime" that indicates a government, even if composed of crooks. Somalia has not had a government for 20 years. It is the total anarchy that the dems are trying to turn America into. (That is not their intention, but it is what will result from their policies. )

[fightingquaker13]

It really does mystify why these ships aren't armed. Would seem to be vastly cheaper to hire a company to put say 4 guys  with crew served weapons on board while the vessl was in the hot zone. Something like a BMG would vastly outrange RPGs and give a nice steady platform It's not likese guys are suicide bombers, they're in it for the green. The tracers start hitting the water 1/3 of mile off, you'd think they'go elsewhere.
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[Hazcat]

Some ports will not allow armed vessels.  Not even small arms.

[fightingquaker13]

Some ports will not allow armed vessels.  Not even small arms.

I'm wondering if this is true. I've heard both sides One is saying what Haz is. The other has said international commercial vessles can carry what they want as long as its declared and stays on board. Anyone familiar with maratime law out there?
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[tombogan03884]

I'm wondering if this is true. I've heard both sides One is saying what Haz is. The other has said international commercial vessles can carry what they want as long as its declared and stays on board. Anyone familiar with maratime law out there?
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Haz Cheats, He gets his info from Deepwater , who BETTER  be familiar with maritime law 

[Hazcat]

Haz Cheats, He gets his info from Deepwater , who BETTER  be familiar with maritime law 

Yep! and my GF is a sailor (sailed from LA then all over the Carribean and South America for 10 years.)

[twyacht]

quote from tombogan,...
Somalia is not a "rogue Regime" that indicates a government, even if composed of crooks. Somalia has not had a government for 20 years. It is the total anarchy that the dems are trying to turn America into. (That is not their intention, but it is what will result from their policies. )

I stand corrected, you are correct, it is a lawless part of Africa that was not turned to dust years ago, we as a nation were given a "black eye" by Somalia, and "ran away", for lack of a better term, it wasn't the military that wanted to carpet bomb the freakin wasteland, it was the POLITICIANS.

Now the UN has regulated piracy laws, how's that gonna work?

Ports don;t allow armed vessels, than they don't get the commerce.

Ports lie elsewhere, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, they are (believe it or not), are Pro-American. US Navy needs some good backup here.
As far as maritime law,...

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/10/blackwater.html

Blackwater 2.0: Hired Guns on the High Seas
By Nathan Hodge EmailOctober 27, 2008 | 8:58:00 AMCategories: Mercs 

Blackwater3_2 Blackwater Worldwide President and CEO Erik Prince hit the talk show circuit yesterday to pitch his company's pirate-fighting expertise. The waters off the coast of Somalia have seen a surge in piracy, and Prince said Blackwater is now in 'active discussions' to provide hired muscle for over a dozen commercial shipping lines.

Earlier this month, the company announced that the McArthur, a former oceanographic research ship, was on call to fight piracy in the Gulf of Aden

Open seas, in International Waters have different reg's regarding firearms, the ports of call, however, can regulate known firearm laden vessels, customs and International Trade, Free Trade Zones, and of course the United Nations, have "made the waters murky"
regarding entry.

That;s why its better to get them in the open ocean.