Historical Photo of all the Presidents

[ericire12]

You might be a right wing extremist... You might be soon getting a visit from the Secret Service....

[1Buckshot]

Racist! How can we be racists when BO is half white. I think the world has forgotten that part. This is a new day. The US has elected the first half breed. I know I'm in trouble now. But it doesn't really mater if he is Black, White or Green. Its his liberal ways and the way he follows Pelsoci and friends around like a puppy dog that worries me.

[fightingquaker13]

Folks, let me try to explain this. There are two issues at play here, number one is what is right and number 2 is what is smart.

1) I teach Americam political history, with an emphasis on racial politics, not just black and white but looking at the Irish, the Italians and the jews (none of whom were considered white initially). I also discovered my great granddad was a Klansman back in the twenties, not something I'm proud of. The fact is that racism is very real, still alive and often manifests itself in ways we don't realize. If I had posted something similar about say Evangelicals Rastus and Pathfinder would have been all over me with both feet, and correctly so. I would also appreciate it as sometimes your predjudice comes out without you realizing it, and you need someone to point it out. I don't think M'lette is a racist or meant any harm. She is a fine person, she just posted something dumb. 75% of political correctness is just plain BS, the other 25% on the other hand is just good manners. 
2) There is also the issue of what is smart. The media, and a lot of folks think that gun owners are all racist rednecks. Why bolster that image? We here on this board, by posting on an open public forum, have a responsibilty to show that gun owners are good folks. We just got done patting ourselves on the back about how friendly this place was, and it is. The question is, If you were a black guy who just bought a gun, how welcome would that post make you feel? We think about this stuff not just because its the right thing to do, but also because its the smart thing to do. More members means more chances of preserving our rights and I don't care what color you are, if you're pro 2A you're my brother in the cause.
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[1911 Junkie]

Poking fun at the Irish in another thread.

Why no outrage there? Hypocrite much?

[fightingquaker13]

Poking fun at the Irish in another thread.

Why no outrage there? Hypocrite much?

Because my grandmother  is Irish, Adelaide Sullivan, as I alluded to in that thread,  and so I can get away it. Also, I wasn't making fun of the Irish, I was making fun of Tom, and that's always allowed. As I said, I'm not exhibiting any great moral outrage over a harmless joke that was meant with no malice at all. All I'm saying is that all of us, particularly now, need to be mindful of the need to reach out to folks, and not inadvertantly drive them away.
Peace
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[ericire12]

Folks, let me try to explain this. There are two issues at play here, number one is what is right and number 2 is what is smart.

1) I teach Americam political history, with an emphasis on racial politics, not just black and white but looking at the Irish, the Italians and the jews (none of whom were considered white initially). I also discovered my great granddad was a Klansman back in the twenties, not something I'm proud of. The fact is that racism is very real, still alive and often manifests itself in ways we don't realize. If I had posted something similar about say Evangelicals Rastus and Pathfinder would have been all over me with both feet, and correctly so. I would also appreciate it as sometimes your predjudice comes out without you realizing it, and you need someone to point it out. I don't think M'lette is a racist or meant any harm. She is a fine person, she just posted something dumb. 75% of political correctness is just plain BS, the other 25% on the other hand is just good manners. 
2) There is also the issue of what is smart. The media, and a lot of folks think that gun owners are all racist rednecks. Why bolster that image? We here on this board, by posting on an open public forum, have a responsibilty to show that gun owners are good folks. We just got done patting ourselves on the back about how friendly this place was, and it is. The question is, If you were a black guy who just bought a gun, how welcome would that post make you feel? We think about this stuff not just because its the right thing to do, but also because its the smart thing to do. More members means more chances of preserving our rights and I don't care what color you are, if you're pro 2A you're my brother in the cause.
FQ13

+1

[ericire12]

Because my grandmother  is Irish, Adelaide Sullivan, as I alluded to in that thread,  and so I can get away it. Also, I wasn't making fun of the Irish, I was making fun of Tom, and that's always allowed. As I said, I'm not exhibiting any great moral outrage over a harmless joke that was meant with no malice at all. All I'm saying is that all of us, particularly now, need to be mindful of the need to reach out to folks, and not inadvertantly drive them away.
Peace
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+1 again

[1911 Junkie]

Any black person who looks at that and is outraged and doesn't see it as a joke was never going to be on our side to begin with.

You have rational and irrational people in every race. Rational people can give and take jokes and more importantly differentiate between jokes and slurs.  We shot USPSA with a couple of black guys. We would give them a hard time and they would give it right back to us. Those are the guys I want on my side, not anybody who might get offended if you look in their general direction for to long.

Once again, the black people who would not laugh at this have a chip on their on their shoulder and you will never knock it off no matter how PC you try to be.

[1776 Rebel]

So let me get this straight. Your on a website run by Michael Bane and the Outdoor Channel. A commercial pursuit. Your "in public" for all intents. The "viewing" audience is everyone of every background and even international. There are young kids that are attracted to the shooting sports, women etc. All your potential readers. And this is acceptable behavior?

[Hottrockin]

So let me get this straight. Your on a website run by Michael Bane and the Outdoor Channel. A commercial pursuit. Your "in public" for all intents. The "viewing" audience is everyone of every background and even international. There are young kids that are attracted to the shooting sports, women etc. All your potential readers. And this is acceptable behavior?

Point taken!

Personally I don't see Major Barry as black...just racially challenged!