Bill to allow firearms in national parks passes Senate

[ericire12]

Dodd to try and strip the gun provision from the bill:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5itp2xFPxgQ4TTpiTFLZQrJpRTAXQD9850J380

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate on Tuesday backed an amendment that would allow people to carry loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.

Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., sponsored the measure, which he said would protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. The amendment allows firearms in parks and wildlife refuges, as long as they are allowed by federal, state and local law.

"If an American citizen has a right to carry a firearm in their state, it makes no sense to treat them like a criminal if they pass through a national park while in possession of a firearm," Coburn said.

Twenty-seven Democrats joined 39 Republicans and one independent in supporting the amendment, which was attached to a bill imposing restrictions on credit card companies. The amendment was approved 67-29.

Groups supporting gun control, park rangers and retirees opposed the amendment, which they said went further than a Bush administration policy that briefly allowed loaded handguns in national parks and refuges.

A federal judge blocked the policy in March, two months after it went into effect in the waning days of President George W. Bush's term. The Obama administration has said it will not appeal the court ruling.

"This amendment is much more radical than the regulation promulgated by the Bush administration," said Bryan Faehner, associate director of the National Parks Conservation Association, an advocacy group that opposes guns in parks.

If the measure becomes law "it would not only put park visitors and wildlife at risk, it would change the character and the peaceful and safe atmosphere in our parks," Faehner said.

Faehner's group sent a letter to senators Tuesday stating that Coburn's amendment would allow individuals to openly carry rifles, shotguns, and semiautomatic weapons in national parks. "As a result, individuals could attend ranger-led hikes and campfire programs with their rifles at Yellowstone National Park and other national park treasures across the country," the letter said.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, called the Senate vote reckless.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly blocked the Bush rule because she found that the Interior Department had not done the proper analysis, Helmke said, "and now the Senate is basically rushing into this with little or no debate, and no analysis on what impact it will have on the people who use the parks and the wildlife in the parks. I think that's reckless."

Sen. Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Banking Committee, said he hoped the credit card legislation would pass this week. Helmke and Faehner said they would try to get the gun amendment stripped from the bill before final passage.

[tumblebug]

Stick it in them TOM way to go.

[Timothy]

Why does the Senate NOW decide to read a bill put before them when they could not take the time to read the TARP bill or the last spending spree bill put before them?

"NUTS".....to quote a famous General.....

[twyacht]

"If an American citizen has a right to carry a firearm in their state, it makes no sense to treat them like a criminal if they pass through a national park while in possession of a firearm," Coburn said.

If the measure becomes law "it would not only put park visitors and wildlife at risk, it would change the character and the peaceful and safe atmosphere in our parks," Faehner said.

It would change it to a safer and even MORE PEACEFUL PARK YOU DUMB ASS!. An armed park is a polite park.

Criminals already illegally carry in a park, with nothing but bad intentions. This is for the law abiding citizens that want to enjoy the great outdoors without any schmuck on 2 or 4 legs ruining my damn little time I have to enjoy with my family.

Someone please smack this person, Faehner.

[tombogan03884]

"If an American citizen has a right to carry a firearm in their state, it makes no sense to treat them like a criminal if they pass through a national park while in possession of a firearm," Coburn said.

If the measure becomes law "it would not only put park visitors and wildlife at risk, it would change the character and the peaceful and safe atmosphere in our parks," Faehner said.

It would change it to a safer and even MORE PEACEFUL PARK YOU DUMB ASS!. An armed park is a polite park.

Criminals already illegally carry in a park, with nothing but bad intentions. This is for the law abiding citizens that want to enjoy the great outdoors without any schmuck on 2 or 4 legs ruining my damn little time I have to enjoy with my family.

Someone please smack this person, Faehner.

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Not just criminals, I had never heard that you couldn't weren't supposed to carry in National parks until I started listening to Gun Talk and reading here and ALWAYS carried a hand gun the many years I went back packing in the White Mountians.

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[PegLeg45]

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Not just criminals, I had never heard that you couldn't weren't supposed to carry in National parks until I started listening to Gun Talk and reading here and ALWAYS carried a hand gun the many years I went back packing in the White Mountians.

Well, shame on you.......dammit.








 

[tumblebug]

 The green meanies are after us.   

[alfsauve]

And Sarah is upset.   Here, from her latest missive:

But that made the gun lobby mad.  Now they are taking a sneaky legislative route to press their "guns for anyone, anywhere" agenda

Oh and send her more money...........................NOT

[Timothy]

ALWAYS carried a hand gun the many years I went back packing in the White Mountians.

I STILL would!

[tombogan03884]

I STILL would!

Only reason I don't is because I haven't gone back packing in a few years , If I still did, I still would.