Author Topic: 5.7 for Self Defense  (Read 47476 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2009, 12:55:22 PM »
Didn't we spend a entire thread ragging on BM for similar views ?
Since I'm not interested in mowing down large numbers of unarmed victims I'll stick with my .45 and .357.
Seriously, I think that the high number of wounded as opposed to the number killed should give people reason to pause when considering the 5.7 for self defense. From what I have heard, the lady Cop was hit 4 times and still returned effective fire. This is NOT the result I want when confronted by a BG in a life threatening situation. I want them to completely forget about being a threat and start begging me to call cops and ambulance if they are not DRT.

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2009, 01:09:06 PM »
Didn't we spend a entire thread ragging on BM for similar views ?
Since I'm not interested in mowing down large numbers of unarmed victims I'll stick with my .45 and .357.
Seriously, I think that the high number of wounded as opposed to the number killed should give people reason to pause when considering the 5.7 for self defense. From what I have heard, the lady Cop was hit 4 times and still returned effective fire. This is NOT the result I want when confronted by a BG in a life threatening situation. I want them to completely forget about being a threat and start begging me to call cops and ambulance if they are not DRT.

That's the point I was trying to make but RP missed it completely.  Yes there was a lot of damage but most were still moving (even treating each others wounds).  OK, you can shoot a bunch real quick, but if the rounds are having limited effect how good is it.

I was not trying to argue the point of how fast or accurate you can shoot it.  Nor was I talking about capacity.  I was talking about effectiveness.  But RP was just chomping at the bit to make a snide remark from his lofty, 'superior knowledge' position.

And just in case you missed it, the title of this thread is "5.7 for SELF DEFENSE".

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2009, 01:11:51 PM »
Haz, no offense meant, brother!

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2009, 01:14:10 PM »
Haz, no offense meant, brother!

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MB,

I took your post as a critique of WHY he chose his weapon, and I agree with it.

No offense ever felt.
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2009, 01:16:02 PM »
I'm interested to hear CombatDiver chime in on this one, I'm pretty sure he's got more experience in these matters than any one of us, including the management!

Personally, I agree with Haz!

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2009, 01:50:17 PM »
Not to be morbid, but I would very much like to know, what bullets were used, ball or hp, how did they perform, where were hits made in the bodies, was the officer wearing her vest? ( I hope so ), Did any of the bullets penetrate the vest if worn?  Of those who died, where were the hits made? This is unfortunately the 1st real try out for the cartridge on any kind of measurable scale in real life.

I like big calibers as much as the next guy, but high capacity lets you stay in the fight longer, all things being equal. That's why #1 fighting pistol is the Glock 21 or 20 for me, but sometimes too big to carry on my person.
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2009, 02:30:45 PM »
The WSJ said this morning that she was hit twice in the left thigh and one went on into her right thigh. In my opinion Sgt Kimberly Munley may be a civilian police officer, but she is a true soldier in that she marched toward the sound of guns. She is a hero.

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2009, 03:55:23 PM »
The WSJ said this morning that she was hit twice in the left thigh and one went on into her right thigh. In my opinion Sgt Kimberly Munley may be a civilian police officer, but she is a true soldier in that she marched toward the sound of guns. She is a hero.

No Argument on THAT.

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2009, 06:23:38 PM »
The WSJ said this morning that she was hit twice in the left thigh and one went on into her right thigh. In my opinion Sgt Kimberly Munley may be a civilian police officer, but she is a true soldier in that she marched toward the sound of guns. She is a hero.
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2009, 06:28:01 PM »
"Why are you carrying a pistol?  Expecting trouble?"

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