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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 11:51:41 AM »
I have to say Im looking hard at going to a 762X54 rifle, ammo is real cheap and the round is very close to the .308, some pretty good systems to use it in also.
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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2007, 12:02:37 PM »
How would you guys stack theFN-FAL against the current crop of AR style guns in 7.62/.308, specifically the DPMS rifles? I confess that i haven't shot any of the new DPMS rifles and probably won't be able to until around Thanksgiving, when I finish up filming SHOOTING GALLERY for Q1 2008.



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First -- love your blog and podcasts...I don't get the Outdoor Channel which makes me sad.

Next -- I highly recommend the SA58.  As I've been blathering on in this thread, I think it is the finest "big boy" combat rifle out there. 

  • * I love my M1A but the SOCOMs I've played with are horribly unbalanced IMO.  They just don't feel right with all that weight out front.  That said, the muzzle brake on them is supposed to be something to behold when it comes to controlability
  • I think the FAL has it all over the M1A when it comes to ergonomics...they are much more like an AR...all the controls are where they're supposed to be for a righty.  THe M1A hs "older" generation ergos
  • Most of my experience in ARs is with the 5.56 guns.  My only expereiences with AR10s is a full sized Armalite...jammo-matic so that soured me abit but shouldn't be damning for all 308 ARs


Finally, I'd be happy to "donate" my crop of 308 battle rifles for you to do a side-by-side comparison...of course, you'd have to let me help :o





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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2007, 02:41:49 PM »
Kilopaparomeo I think I'm in love with your Rifle collection!!!!!!! ;D :P ;D I think I might have to take another look at the FN FAL's.
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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 05:19:57 PM »
I have to say Im looking hard at going to a 762X54 rifle, ammo is real cheap and the round is very close to the .308

I shot my son's Mosin Nagant 91/30 a few days ago. Not too bad for a rifle produced in 1944. He replaced the wood with synthetic. Needs a scope, but the iron sights were not bad. 7.62x54R cartridge.
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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2007, 06:01:13 PM »
Kilopaparomeo I think I'm in love with your Rifle collection!!!!!!! ;D :P ;D I think I might have to take another look at the FN FAL's.

I might as well post the rest of them...all equally as bad pictures

Here are my "Cold War" main battle rifles



...and the "Post Cold War" intermediate caliber rifles



Now the WWII Allies collection



German, Japanese, Swiss, French, Finnish and Swedish military bolties



"Sporting" rifles



...and the "whoops, I forgot to get these in" rifles



And finally, not yet mine, but will be when it ships in November...a BOHICA .50 BMG upper on an AR lower



Legend:
Picture #1
- PTR-91
- CETME
- DSA Para SA58 FAL
- DSA StG58A FAL
- Springfield M1A Loaded
- Egyptian FN-49

Picture #2
- WASR-10 AKM
- White Oak Armament DCM AR
- DPMS M4-gery
- Oly Arms 9mm AR

Picture #3
- Springfield Armory 2.5M M1 Garand
- Springfield Armory 19xxx M1 Garand
- Inland M1 Carbine
- Remington 03A3
- Savage No4 Mk1* Lee-Enfield
- Long Branch No4 Mk1/2 Lee-Enfield
- Mosin Nagant M38
- Mosin Nagant 91/30
- Mosin Nagant M44

Picture #4
- S/42 Mauser 98K
- byd Mauser 98K
- Yugo M24/47
- Type 99 Arisaka
- Swiss K31 Beech
- Swiss K31 Walnut
- French MAS 36
- Manlicher-Berthier M92/16
- Finn M39 Saka
- Swede M96 1900 Oberndorf
- Swede M96 1903 Gustav

Picture #5
- Bubba'd Israeli 98K
- Tikka T3, .300 WSM
- "Billy Dixon" Sharps 1874, .45-70
- Rossi Win 92, .45 Colt
- Henry lever action, .22 LR
- Charles Daly Zavasta Superior II, 22 LR
- Mossberg 46m(a), .22 LR
- Remington 512-T, .22 LR
- Savage Cub, .22 LR

Picture #6
- Gamo Shadow, .177 pellet
- Yugo 59/66 SKS
- Krag M96 in middle of restoration
- Eddystone P17, .30-06
- Spanish FR-8, La Corona
- Springfield 1873 Trapdoor
- Robinson 1863 .58 cal contract rifle
- Ishapore 2A
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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2007, 08:04:01 PM »
Interesting thread.  First post here and wish to offer a clear choice for me in a battle rifle.  M1 Garand.  Some may groan, but I can use the sights, find it to be robust and dependible, accurate and fast loading.....and the biggest reason....it is my only battle rifle, I know it and have confidence in it. 

Would I choose a FAL or M1a if I had one, probably, hard to argue against a magazine. 

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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2007, 08:48:32 PM »
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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2007, 06:39:39 PM »
This is for Don Worsham who wanted some pics of the M1a scout configuration on the Troy modular chassi, aimpoint comp m2 and Troy backup sights. Also my Standard grade for comparison. And the battle rifle not talked about My M40A3.





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Re: Battle rifles (223 need not apply)
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2007, 07:57:35 PM »


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