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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2009, 03:32:44 PM »
Dr Obama was asked about this last night in the Press conf:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/22/painfully-embarrassing-softball-question-of-the-day/

"I'm not aware of all the facts ... Chip Gates is a friend so I'm biased"

Good time to say it is too bad something went horribly wrong, and then shut your pie hole!

The Pres. states he is sure some words are exchanged, and then he goes on to blame LE.  Is it possible that this was poor judgement by an elitist, and good precautionary police work ... the same good police work the good Dr. would have demanded if it were someone trying to break into his home?

Racisim ... When you identify your self by race, and when you play the "race card," you give up the right to scream racism!  He wanted special treatment (in a good way) because he is a successful member of the educated black elite community ... Moron!  My appologies to non educated, non elite morons everywhere

We are going through a thing in a small town out here where the police are being hung out to dry.  On air interviews with both law enforcement and a witness that was part of the incident agree with the facts that are known to the public:  Two young men in their mid twenties were driving eraticly; a plain clothes investigator witnessed it, called for uniform back up in marked squad cars and followed them; upon reaching their apartment the investigator confronted them in the public lawn in front of their building; the investigators gun was covered by his shirt, but no one is sure if his badge on his belt was conceled; it is not stated by either side at this point if he identified himself as LE; the young men were drinking beer; one of the youths got into a wrestling match with the investigator; suddenly the youth jumped up off the ground and the investigator fired four shots, unknown number hit the youth in the chest; the youth grasped his chest and said "I'm done ... I'm done," he stumbled around the corner, and fell where he died.

Everyone is screaming excesive use of force.  Maybe, maybe not.  What was said, and what went on in the tussle on the ground.  If you are going to fight with the police you will lose!  It just surprises me that all media accounts have the exact same thing coming from both sides, but the public is still crying "cover-up."

Bottom line in both of these is that the police had probable cause to check something out, both civilians offered resistance, and both are unhappy with the results (one more than the other).  I will reserve condemnation until more info comes forward, but I go back to "If you are going to fight with the police you will pay a price."
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2009, 04:00:24 PM »
The Supreme Post Turtle showed his brilliiance again. He begins with "I'm not aware of all the facts." and then the chief law enforcement official in the nation ends with calling the Cambridge Police "stupid."

What a doofus!!! >:(
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2009, 04:07:10 PM »
My Dad has been a cop in Daytona Beach for over 30 years now, and one of the things he always told me was even if you know you are right and you did nothing wrong, when a cop stops you or asks to see id or wants to ask you a few questions, be nice and courteous. Answer questions to a point until you think you might need a lawyer.

Even if the cops were racial profiling, if the guy just complied and was nice about what was going on, he would not have been arrested and he could have called the president after the cops left and told him what happened.

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2009, 04:10:33 PM »
My Dad has been a cop in Daytona Beach for over 30 years now, and one of the things he always told me was even if you know you are right and you did nothing wrong, when a cop stops you or asks to see id or wants to ask you a few questions, be nice and courteous. Answer questions to a point until you think you might need a lawyer.

Even if the cops were racial profiling, if the guy just complied and was nice about what was going on, he would not have been arrested and he could have called the president after the cops left and told him what happened.

If it were racial profiling it would have been the neighbor that called in the suspious actions of the good Dr. breaking into his home.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2009, 05:42:51 PM »
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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – The Cambridge police commissioner says his department is "deeply pained" by President Barack Obama's statement that his officers "acted stupidly" when they arrested a renowned black scholar in his home.

In his first statement since the arrest, Commissioner Robert Haas on Thursday commended the arresting officer, Sgt. James Crowley. Haas said Crowley's actions were in no way motivated by racism.

Crowley, who is white, has been criticized for arresting Henry Louis Gates Jr. last week. Police say Gates flew into a verbal rage when officers asked him for identification while investigating a report of a break-in.

On Wednesday, Obama said officers "acted stupidly" in arresting Gates. On Thursday, he softened his stance and said cooler heads should have prevailed.

Cambridge Sgt. James Crowley has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming.


So to recap, the Post Turtle calls the cops stupid for arresting a black man who's authority issues, big mouth, and belligerent attitude pissed off the wrong person who is an academy instructor in racial profiling and hand picked by a (black) former commissioner.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2009, 06:14:43 PM »
It's hardly been even 7 months and....."I'm tired of being beaten down by the Man!"
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2009, 09:48:56 PM »
In an unprecedented move, BHO fired the police commissioner today and assumed responsibilities himself. All is now better.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2009, 10:11:54 PM »
I think Gates should have said "I pay YOUR SALARY!" because that would have been better than "I will go talk to your mama outside!"

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2009, 05:32:26 AM »
Interesting read from Salon of all places.

Skip Gates, please sit down
You are suffering from what I call the "Ivy League Effect"
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/07/24/gates/

FTA: "Which brings me to Skip Gates. He isn’t outraged because he feels he was the victim of racial profiling by the police (that dubious honor goes to his foolish neighbor) [in fact, the woman who called the police is not a neighbor, but works nearby]. He’s outraged because he was the victim of class profiling. He didn’t resent being identified as black; he resented being identified as that kind of black, the kind of black that can be hassled and pushed around by simpleton cops. How dare you hassle me? I’m Skip Gates: Harvard professor!"
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2009, 10:13:52 AM »
Getting even better....

Cop Who Arrested Gates Not Ruling Out Defamation Lawsuit

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8163051&page=1
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