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VinBea

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #60 on: July 24, 2009, 11:38:00 AM »
In this Age of "Hussein" Obama - 'FACTS' aren't the point: emotionally driving the 'HERD' (that's us folks) in the direction they want us going in is where the tire meets the road...there's no Truth/Facts insofar as what's going on in Washington DC today; and to think, we never could have gotten here had there not been a deceptive 'WOLF' (a Judas-Goat) in the administration of GW Bush setting the stage for all that's since followed with the rising up of this anointed full-of-baloney-one from Kenya...

...facts as I see them is, "Hussein" Obama who can't produce original birth certificate and who's mostly muslim having received one of the highest medals Saudi Arabia can give (have to be muslim in good standing to get that...); only 6% of him is actually 'black'; is about doing with race relations in America what George W Bush did with the whole rightwing of America: breaking it into thousands and thousands of fragmented pieces...and as the good Lord stated becoming all the more obvious, a house divided won't stand...

Alex Jones over at infowars.com is still cutting-edge ahead of anyone else regardling this play on Americans by these elites/globalist/bankers flipping everything America on its head...

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« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2009, 11:52:23 AM »
Here is the press conference that the police just had......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcDLFcwdIzQ

They did a really good job showing that they stand by Crowley..... I also enjoyed the way they called out Obama and the case that they made that he needs to apologize.



Whats Obama's response? He blames the media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-O31P22r_s

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« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »

Whats Obama's response? He blames the media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-O31P22r_s



One more round of our mouthy leader trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

When his handlers and puppeteers aren't controlling him and the real him escapes, we see him for the master deliverer of other's words, but nothing other than an empty shell.
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« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2009, 06:20:12 PM »
IMHO, everybody involved was, indeed, stupid.
1) Gates, who was understandably pissed about being unable to get in his house, shot his mouth off, and assumed racism. He was, however, supposedly in his home where you don't need to bow to the police, the FBI, or anyone else who, once they realize their mistake - should get the hell out. I guess many here believe a certain amount of cowtowing IS always appropriate where our masters are concerned??? I thought everybody here thought they were citizens not subjects? Politeness to the police, while safe, is hardly mandatory in a republic of equals.
2) The cop, who as a professional, should realize people get pissed and still have the right to be assholes or not in their own house after committing no crime. The proper LEO response to, "Give me your name and badge number!!" is to give it, roll your eyes, and go laugh about it with your friends. I assume the cop WAS an ass, as he reacted as one. American police don't arrest you and drag you from your home for not being respectful enough.
3) Obama, who perhaps knows about assholes with badges, for siding with his friend by calling the cops stupid. Hey, at least he wasn't the typical professional DC slug with the (always smart but dishonest), "I don't know enough about the case to comment."

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« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2009, 08:01:44 PM »
There is a piece of this that Dr. Gates does not address - What did he say or do to escalate this to the point he was arrested?  The officer, before he was advised to quit talking publicly, talks of being let in the house and asking for ID.  The officer also goes into the "good Dr." becoming agitated.  Has Gates been carrying this race chip on his shoulder and just waiting for this chance?  Something happened between these two, and it wasn't physical or the standard practices would have been different.

In my mind, based on the facts as laid out by both sides, this call by someone concerning suspicsious activity could have been handled easily if ID had just been presented.  I'm sure the officer could have been on edge, but his job puts him in that position hourly.  I'm also sure that Gates was frustrated with the visit after needing to break into his own home, but why get so upset when someone is just trying to protect your neighborhood?

I also can not get out of my mind how quick the race issue came up in the actual event, and how Gates and the Pres. won't let go of it.  "Perfect Storm" is all I can say  :(
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2009, 08:06:52 PM »
There is a piece of this that Dr. Gates does not address - What did he say or do to escalate this to the point he was arrested?  The officer, before he was advised to quit talking publicly, talks of being let in the house and asking for ID.  The officer also goes into the "good Dr." becoming agitated.  Has Gates been carrying this race chip on his shoulder and just waiting for this chance?  Something happened between these two, and it wasn't physical or the standard practices would have been different.

In my mind, based on the facts as laid out by both sides, this call by someone concerning suspicsious activity could have been handled easily if ID had just been presented.  I'm sure the officer could have been on edge, but his job puts him in that position hourly.  I'm also sure that Gates was frustrated with the visit after needing to break into his own home, but why get so upset when someone is just trying to protect your neighborhood?

I also can not get out of my mind how quick the race issue came up in the actual event, and how Gates and the Pres. won't let go of it.  "Perfect Storm" is all I can say  :(

Lets not forget that the neighbor corroborated the cops' story as the truth.
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« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2009, 08:19:20 PM »
Since this happened in my back yard, it's been central to every local news event since it started.  As I said, until I read it on the board, I was unaware that Gates was black.

Since, I've been reminded every time this angry, elitist, overbearing wanker sticks his nose in a camera. 

In all the lengthy interviews I've seen (NBC only has snipets and soundbites), the Cop has been far and away the more gracious of the parties involved including the POTUS.  I hope he tells Obama, "thanks but no thanks" to the offer of a beer at the White House.  I know I would never entertain the offer myself, under any circumstances.  The flip-side, when Gates sticks his mug out there and speaks, he sounds like prick.

The cop has said repeatedly that he has no intention of apologizing and may pursue defamation and libel charges against the good Dr..  I sincerely hope he does because it's high time it's publicized that the bigotry is coming from the opposite side of the equation.

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #67 on: July 24, 2009, 08:51:43 PM »
IMHO, everybody involved was, indeed, stupid.
1) Gates, who was understandably pissed about being unable to get in his house, shot his mouth off, and assumed racism. He was, however, supposedly in his home where you don't need to bow to the police, the FBI, or anyone else who, once they realize their mistake - should get the hell out. I guess many here believe a certain amount of cowtowing IS always appropriate where our masters are concerned??? I thought everybody here thought they were citizens not subjects? Politeness to the police, while safe, is hardly mandatory in a republic of equals.
2) The cop, who as a professional, should realize people get pissed and still have the right to be assholes or not in their own house after committing no crime. The proper LEO response to, "Give me your name and badge number!!" is to give it, roll your eyes, and go laugh about it with your friends. I assume the cop WAS an ass, as he reacted as one. American police don't arrest you and drag you from your home for not being respectful enough.
3) Obama, who perhaps knows about assholes with badges, for siding with his friend by calling the cops stupid. Hey, at least he wasn't the typical professional DC slug with the (always smart but dishonest), "I don't know enough about the case to comment."


You obviously did not read the Police report I linked to,
1) The Officer had "probable cause", Some one had reported 2 guys prying open the door of a house, since the unidentified black male was a burglary suspect, the cop had EVERY right to be in the house.

2) The officer DID give his name and badge number TWICE.

3) The cop that you, in your ignorance, are so quick to condemn, was appointed by a BLACK, Police Commisioner, to be in charge of TRAINING in NOT profiling.

4) No Obama was not the "typical professional DC slug with the (always smart but dishonest), "I don't know enough about the case to comment." Instead he said I don't know the facts and proceeded to make an ass of himself . Kind of like you.

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2009, 08:53:02 PM »
Lets not forget that the neighbor corroborated the cops' story as the truth.

Half a dozen neighbors.

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« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2009, 09:03:12 PM »
http://patterico.com/2009/07/24/the-officer-didnt-stereotype-henry-louis-gates-henry-louis-gates-stereotyped-the-officer/

The Officer Didn’t Stereotype Henry Louis Gates — Henry Louis Gates Stereotyped the Officer

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Racism is simply a form of stereotyping. Stereotyping occurs when one says: because of my past experiences with people from your group, as well as things I have heard about people from your group, I am forming a firm opinion about you.

Racism is simply one form of that attitude, in which “people from your group” means “black people.”

Oddly, however, many black people feel perfectly comfortable engaging in a similar form of stereotyping, in which “people from your group” means “police officers” or “white people” — or, best of all, “white police officers.” Apparently, stereotyping those groups is a laudable pursuit.

The Henry Louis Gates arrest is yet another reminder of how quick some black people are to leap to unflattering conclusions about others based on scant evidence. Mickey Kaus reads Gates’s account of his arrest, and makes this observation:

    Just reading this passage–Gates’ own words–it seems to me he pops into litigious mode a little quickly. He says he wanted to file a complaint “because of the way he treated me at the front door.” How had he mistreated him at the front door? He asked him ‘Would you step outside onto the porch?’ (where, as Gates notes, the cop would have more rights). When Gates refuses and instead gives the cop an ID, the cop looks at the ID. And at that point Gates has already determined he’s been treated unfairly. He’s already refusing to answer questions and planning to file a complaint. Again, from his own words it looks like he rushes a bit to the conclusion that a white man in a similar situation would have been treated differently. Is that really true?

Is it really true? Gates has no basis to say. All he has is a collection of prejudices about the group to which the officer belonged: white police officers. And based on that collection of prejudices, Gates leapt to a conclusion — this police officer is a racist. The evidence is strong that the conclusion was wrong: the officer teaches classes in avoiding racial profiling and was responding to a legitimate report from a citizen. Gates should have realized that his own actions in forcing entry to the house had aroused legitimate suspicions. But Gates didn’t employ common sense, or make an effort to learn something about the man in front of him. He simply stereotyped him.

And in apologizing for Gates, black firebrands and white liberals patronizingly excuse techniques of stereotyping that they would condemn in a racist.

Form an image of a racist in your mind: someone who watches a TV report about a crime committed by a black person, and says: “I’m not surprised. That’s how black people are: they’re all criminals.” Is this racist attitude justified if the racist says:

    I’m sorry I have this bad attitude about black people, but I have seen and heard bad things about black people all my life. I know they commit a lot of crimes, and in fact, I have been robbed by three separate black people in my life.

Now, form an image in your mind of a black person who watches a TV report about police brutality, and says: “I’m not surprised. That’s how those white cops are: they’re all racists.” Is this attitude justified if the black person says:

    I’m sorry I have this bad attitude about white cops, but I have seen and heard bad things about white cops all my life. I know they hassle black people, and in fact, I have been mistreated by three separate white cops in my life.

For some reason, people who would never accept the racist’s justification of his racist attitudes, will nod their heads in approval as black people expound on why they believe all white cops are racists based upon their own personal experiences.

Henry Louis Gates stereotyped Sgt. Crowley. He formed an opinion about Sgt. Crowley based on evidence that was far too limited to justify the conclusion. He formed that opinion based on prejudices he had collected over the course of his life about the group to which Sgt. Crowley belonged. That opinion — that Sgt. Crowley was a racist who needed to be educated about racial profiling — turned out to be wrong.

Gates’s mental process was the same mental process that a racist uses to decide that someone like Gates is less than human. It’s an ignorant way of looking at the world, hardly befitting a Harvard professor. Liberals ought not to applauding such stereotyping. They should be fighting it.

It’s a shame that they don’t. And I don’t think they ever will.
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