No Racism in America, No siree.

[tombogan03884]

I do enjoy your alias Tom...

Full name and zip code.  Way to hide in plain sight!  

 

  You know what they say. There are none so blind as those who WILL not see.

[Pathfinder]

Hey, knock yourself out fella. Want my Mommie's phone number? My School's? My school board? I aint scared. I am easy to find and don't hide behind internet aliases. I fight my own battles. You gonna threaten to tell my mommie or man up and fly down to Boca? i have yet to meet an internet bully who even approached being a man. Read back through that RC forum and find where the last big man was going to meet me at the field but instead said I looked like I enjoyed my groceries. I may be old and fat, but I haven't been afraid of an azzkikin since I was 8. He cried to my school board and school like a little girl. My principal and I laughed our butts off. We shoot together. I'm a veteran. A real non-sniper crap infantry vet. Violent tendencies, please. I was trained for it by the best. You are a wienie. I haven't said that to a boy since I was ten. Go cry to whoever you please. My identity is no secret. My pic is easy to find and so am I, boy. I gotta go wash my hands. I feel like I touched something foul.

Sad. Very sad. You need to go, onrecess. This is not about conformity, that is not a requirement here. This is about you, the kind of person you present yourself as being. You have little to contribute here other than name calling, insults, poorly thought and structured posts, and so far all of one post about shooting and guns. I am not one of the three Ms, so I have no control over this site. But I will offer this - this is not a forum where you get to be an ass just because you want to be or are one.

In fact, you are the internet bully, as you know you can say anything you want and get away with it. Do you teach the kids to behave in such a way just because they can? I pity their parents, but hell, it's Boca so the kids are probably already self-absorbed and privleged/entitled.

The only thing we can do is endure your inane statements for just so long, and then ask you to leave. Since you won't, we will ask that you be removed. I have done that. It's a first too, so you can notch your whatever, secure in the knowledge that you were the first to be asked out of DRTV.

Until then, fellow DRTV-ers, please ignore his posts, do not respond to him, and let's get on about our business of discussing our thoughts like adults and not like a spoiled little child. Yeah, I called you a name too. It's easy, any juvenile with 2 brain cells to rub together can do it, it proves nothing.

[Rastus]

Hey, knock yourself out fella. Want my Mommie's phone number? My School's? My school board? I aint scared. I am easy to find and don't hide behind internet aliases. I fight my own battles. You gonna threaten to tell my mommie or man up and fly down to Boca? i have yet to meet an internet bully who even approached being a man. Read back through that RC forum and find where the last big man was going to meet me at the field but instead said I looked like I enjoyed my groceries. I may be old and fat, but I haven't been afraid of an azzkikin since I was 8. He cried to my school board and school like a little girl. My principal and I laughed our butts off. We shoot together. I'm a veteran. A real non-sniper crap infantry vet. Violent tendencies, please. I was trained for it by the best. You are a wienie. I haven't said that to a boy since I was ten. Go cry to whoever you please. My identity is no secret. My pic is easy to find and so am I, boy. I gotta go wash my hands. I feel like I touched something foul.

This quoted post above may be an unstable post, does anyone have a psychologist/psychiatrist friend that can look at these posts?  Does anyone here think it may be responsible to warn the school district (if he's really a teacher) to look at these statements and especially if he is not a teacher because we really have no confirmation this person is who he says he is?  Let's face it, we're on a gun forum, we believe in our 2nd Ammendment rights but, mostly right now, I don't want innocent children potentially exposed to hurt no matter how remote the possibility may be.  

Yes, I am concerned about the potential for instability around children.  Onrecess, please post your identity along with the principal's and school board's phone numbers along with something that can verify the identity you provide is valid and that you are actually an employed teacher under the principal and school board whose numbers you have said you are "I aint scared." to provide.

[onrecess]

Gee, I'm supposed to hide, huh? See, men don't hide behind the internet or their mom's skirt. Am I supposed to be afraid some idiot kid is going to cry about me? Say he, a moronic teenager, thinks something? Uh, after you reach puberty that egocentricness wears off and you will realize no one really gives a rat's ass what you "think!" . Some inernet tough guy is coming to fight me? Yeah, right. Funny how even the local guy at that forum you loked up couldn't quite actually even speak to my face when he saw me. Posted some baby crap about my )proudly earned) beer belly saying he saw me! Wow! I qivered! just like everyone here, he was only tough on the internet and afraid to give his name. Well, you got mine, boys, what is it going to be? Yeah, what I thought. Why hide behind an alias? Easy, you're little girls. I argue politics here in the biker bars with real men. nobody ever threatened to tell my mom or threatened to go tell my school board I'm scary. I'm a vet, they darn well know I'm scary. Adults understand that grown men are all scary to little boys. Don't worry, even if I cared enough to try to break your infantile internet alias, I don't beat up children or weaklings. Some day, I doubt it but someday, you might be grownups.  I didn't realize it was a little boy forum playing big men. I looked up what tommybabybottom said in a post about an EMU. turns out to be some kinds dress up game those teenieboppers at the malls all in makeup. not an adult in America even knows what the heck that is. By the way, pretend internet ranger, drop on by ArmyRanger dot com.  Word of warning, every pretend Ranger is looked up and exposed as teeny pretenders.
Go back to yur mommies basements!
i can't believe I got pulled into a talk with children 
Keerist! EMU my foot. Snap! All that other teen talk! I looked some up with EMU! Flash! Biters, man! 
God, I feel 40 years younger, dudes!
God save us! Oh, sorry, that is old guy's speak for, "How ridiculous is THIS?"
Emu, I'm laughing my azz off!
PS: I post my camping schedule on the rv forum, if I'm not a home! 

[MikeBjerum]

Time to step back, take a deep breath and evaluate why we are all here:]

This is a forum by and for shooters, gun owners and pro-Second Amendment people.  It is based on the productions of DRTV and expands from there.

Even those of us of like mind have many differing opinions and get into some pretty hot discussions.  We are also a very stubborn bunch.  That is what verifies the strengths of a person's beliefs.  

Newbies are welcome, as are people of different views, but if you are a troll looking to create trouble or a "Brady" looking to divide and conquer you are barking up the wrong tree.  If you are not a true believer in this great nation you will have major issues.  If you want to play the "call you out game," I don't understand why you fight on the web rather than the local bar.

onrecess - you aren't the first one to rattle cages or get tom wound up ... Tab is great at it, but we keep him around for the avatars  

Now ... Back to our keyboards, and come out fighting like the kindergartners we are  

P.S.
A good self test to determine if you should be here to not is gauge your response to the phrase "Two to the chest and one to the head."

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[Rastus]

It's times like these that a case can be made for mental evalutation to be passed before suffrage.

[tombogan03884]

It's times like these that a case can be made for mental evalutation to be passed before suffrage.

The Founding Fathers KEPT the property requirement for voting. Some states even raised it from colonial levels.
Prior to Johnsons "Great Society" Welfare recipients lost their right to vote.
Sounds like "Reasonable Regulations" and " Common sense safety requirements".

[tombogan03884]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_on_re_us/us_harvard_scholar_caller

     Mass. police heard calling Gates uncooperative

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – A Cambridge police sergeant who responded to a 911 call about a possible break-in at the home of black Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. told dispatchers that Gates was being uncooperative and to "keep the cars coming."

Another voice can be heard in the background of the transmission, but it is unintelligible and unclear if it is Gates.

Cambridge police released recordings of police radio transmissions and of the 911 call Monday following more than a week of controversy over Gates' July 16 arrest on a disorderly conduct charge. The charge was dropped, but the encounter sparked a national debate about racial profiling.

Gates' supporters called his arrest by Sgt. James Crowley an outrageous act of racial profiling. Crowley's supporters say Gates was arrested because he was belligerent and that race was not a factor.

Interest in the case intensified when President Barack Obama said at a White House news conference last week that Cambridge police "acted stupidly" in arresting Gates. He later tried to quell the uproar about his comments and invited both Gates and Crowley to the White House for a beer, a meeting that could happen this week, according to the White House.

In the 911 recording released Monday, caller Lucia Whalen tells police she saw two men pressing on the door of a home, but says she is unsure whether the men live there or if they were trying to break in. She said she saw two suitcases on the porch.

"I don't know if they live there and they just had a hard time with their key. But I did notice they used their shoulder to try to barge in and they got in. I don't know if they had a key or not cause I couldn't see from my angle," Whalen said.

Whalen does not mention the race of the men she saw until pressed by a dispatcher to describe them. At that point, she said one of the men may have been Hispanic.

In Crowley's report, he said he spoke to Whalen at the scene and she reported seeing two black men on the porch.

Whalen's attorney, Wendy Murphy, said her client did not mention the men's race to Crowley and is upset by news reports she believes have unfairly depicted her as a racist.

"She doesn't live in the area. She is by no means the entitled white neighbor. ... That has been the theme in the blogs and the implication in some of the mainstream news media," Murphy said in a phone interview Monday.

In the radio transmissions, Crowley tells a dispatcher he is at the home where the possible break-in was reported.

"I'm up with a gentleman, says he resides here, but was uncooperative, but keep the cars coming," Crowley said.

In his written police report, Crowley said Gates became angry when he told him he was investigating a report of a break-in, then yelled at him and called him a racist.

[Teresa Heilevang]

Tom.. the link to http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/gates_incident_report_redacted.pdf  has been removed... wonder why.............

A post Racial President.........................

Many people hoped that the election of a black president of the United States would mark our entering a "post-racial" era, when we could finally put some ugly aspects of our history behind us.

That is quite understandable. But it takes two to tango. Those of us who want to see racism on its way out need to realize that others benefit greatly from crying racism. They benefit politically, financially and socially.

Barack Obama has been allied with such people for decades. He found it expedient to appeal to a wider electorate as a post-racial candidate, just as he has found it expedient to say a lot of other popular things – about campaign finance, about transparency in government, about not rushing legislation through Congress without having it first posted on the Internet long enough to be studied – all of which turned to be the direct opposite of what he actually did after getting elected.

Those who were shocked at President Obama's cheap shot at the Cambridge police for being "stupid" in arresting Henry Louis Gates must have been among those who let their wishes prevail over the obvious implications of Obama's 20 years of association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Anyone who can believe that Obama did not understand what the racist rants of Jeremiah Wright meant can believe anything.

With race – as with campaign finance, transparency and the rest – Barack Obama knows what the public wants to hear and that is what he has said. But his policies as president have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.

(Column continues below)

http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=105230

[MikeBjerum]

I listened to the 911 tapes on the news a few times yesterday.  When the officer reports that the man he is with appears to be the resident but requests that the others continue on the officer if very calm and professional.  The next clip they played was when the officer asked if the detention van was still coming.  At this point he is still very professional, but sounds stressed.

Taking those clips, and they are only sound bites, along with the reports given by both sides my feeling is that this officer was doing the best he could, but right from the start Dr. Gates had an attitude that put him in the position he ended up in.