NYCPD With Bloomberg OK, Set Up Gun Show Loophole Sting In 3 States

[fightingquaker13]

While I'm sure the number is really low, I really doubt its 1%.  FTF sales are very hard to keep track off.    Most guns used in crimes are stolen.

True,but a very large percentage can be traced to a very small number of dealers (not gun shows, but dealers). The one useful thing Chuck Schumer,my least favorite Senator, did was was commision a study showing that 2% of gun shops sold a stupidly high (like 70%) of the guns used in murders. It SHOULD be easy to put these bad apples out business. Shut them down and let the rest of us go on about our business. But, no. The anti's have a larger agenda. It isn't about bad apples, its about banning guns (because that will end gun crime as surely as banning pot will make sure no one smokes it). The gun show bit is nothing but a ruse. Hell, I've sold a half dozen guns here (including a very nice AR on sale now ). Am I the problem? Are you for buying it? No, and they know this.  The idea is to regulate and record every sale so that each gun and owner is on record so that they can then pull an Australian style gun ban. It probably won't happen, but that's what they want. And they are laying the ground work to get there. Private sales get in the way of their program. They know it and we should too.  Bloomberg is at least semi-honest about his agenda. The fact that this guy is a Republican is reason 2,456 why I don't trust either party further than I can throw it.
FQ13

[TAB]

there is one good thing about CA, going to all transfers( other then direct family members, father/mother to child) needing to go thru a ffl...

I've not heard one thing about a gun show loop hole from a state rep since jan 1 99( when that law went into effect)

I worked in a high volume FFL for a long time.( a slow day was 25 guns, weekends 100+ ) in all my time working there,( about 2 years) We had like 10 kick backs.   only one of those was a DOJ kick back.  all the rest were DMV kick bakcs( AKA failed to pay a ticket, or it was paid and never cleared)    That should tell you how uncommon it is for some one thats on the "no-no" list  that actually make it to the background check.   Now we did have several not make it past the prescreening Qs.   

[tombogan03884]

 FQ, Bloomy quit the Republican party some time ago. Where have you been ?

[TAB]

FQ, Bloomy quit the Republican party some time ago. Where have you been ?

you know there was this other Rep... he was in office for 8 years... he said he would sign another AWB if it made it too his desk...


Maybe you have heard of him... GW bush.

[tombogan03884]

Would you rather have politicians who don't do bad things they say they will ( GWB did say that, He also, you conveniently forget allowed the Clinton AWB to expire ) or ones who promise GOOD things, like say, transparency in their administration, and fail on them ?

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[ericire12]

Dont worry TAB, we hate ALL politicians!

































*Also child molesters, lawyers, used car salesmen, and college professors

[TAB]

he didn't allow the AWB to expire, congress did that.  its out side the scope of his power.

[ellis4538]

Didn't know it at the time but I was at one of the shows (Niles Ohio) where Bumble berger sent out his stings.  Tried to explain to my wife that what they are doing is against the law but she couldn't/wouldn't understand!  The only thing she could say is that if dealers and private individuals wouldn't sell illigally there wouldn't be a problem.  She doesn't understand that a few are screwing it up for the vast majority.

Richard

[tt11758]

Didn't know it at the time but I was at one of the shows (Niles Ohio) where Bumble berger sent out his stings.  Tried to explain to my wife that what they are doing is against the law but she couldn't/wouldn't understand!  The only thing she could say is that if dealers and private individuals wouldn't sell illigally there wouldn't be a problem.  She doesn't understand that a few are screwing it up for the vast majority.

Richard

Bingo.  But isn't that the case in a multitude of issues?

[Rob Pincus]

Shouldn't this thread be full of:

"I wish those dealers weren't such idiots!"
and
"I hope the BATF prosecutes those dealers!"



I don't care if it was Bloomberg, the NRA or ACORN that set up the sting, the fact is that they caught unscrupulous dealers who were taking actions that could very well have a very negative impact on all our US.

-RJP