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[fightingquaker13]

Quaker how much are you willing to bet?   

I totally agree that any extremist is capable of doing harm---
40 years ago upstanding "Christians" were hanging, beating, killing and burning blacks in my beloved American south. It's all a matter of mindset...

One of those was my Great Grandfather I loved him dearly, respeccted him for being a real Southern gentleman and still carry his Parker. But when my Grand dad died, I wound up going through some of his effects and found the Klan stuff. This wasn't the silly Jerry Springer edition of the Klan either. It was the Klan back in the Twenties and Thirties when that meant something, and none of it was good. It was a very unpleasant wake up call. Don't tell me Christians can't be good little terrorists as well. The sad thing is Pop was in the Klan because it was expected for an upper middle class Southerner at the time, like the Rotarians, only with a body count. People associate themselves with evil for the most banal of reasons.  I get my revenge from the fact that I lost my virginity to a black girl, and teach racial politics. I don't think the spinning in his grave has stopped yet.
FQ13

[Hazcat]

FQ,

I agree and disagree with your premise. There are crazies every where but Muslims are FAR more likely to be sociopaths than Christians.  Heck, LOOK at the teachings of both.  As I said before, please name a group of Christians any where that believe that killing non Christians is not only a good thing but a desirable thing.

SJ,

Those Americans you talk of are now Dems (see Bryd, Robert J.)  and I believe it was a bit more that 40 years ago.  BTW you do know that it was the Dems that filibustered against the civil rights act and that Wallace was a Dem, don't you?

[seeker_two]

We must face facts...Not all Muslims are terrorists but ALL terrorist are Muslim (and them that ain't don't complain about them that is!).

I'm sure those who've had to deal with the IRA or some of the more militant Hindu movements in India would disagree with you on that...

What this incident does prove is that the military needs to more closely screen its personnel for the signs that Maj. Hassan showed and take definitive action BEFORE events like this occurr---instead of the prevalent "don't ask, don't tell" attitude. Would the military of the 1960's have allowed someone who demonstrated pro-Soviet attitudes to rise through the ranks without significant scrutiny?

[sanjuancb]

SJ,

Those Americans you talk of are now Dems (see Bryd, Robert J.)  and I believe it was a bit more that 40 years ago.  BTW you do know that it was the Dems that filibustered against the civil rights act and that Wallace was a Dem, don't you?

Yeah but sort of thing transcends even party lines.

[tombogan03884]

The KKK did not accept Republicans, since it was originally formed by Democrats to resist the Republican instituted reconstruction of the devastated south.
As to this PC BS sympathy for "average Muslims", They are like politicians, THEY ARE ALL GUILTY. Them that are not terrorists are not doing anything about those that are, that makes them accessories. So please spare me the Rodney King BS.
FQ, while you quote away from your Koran, why don't you mention the "Sword Verses". Or do you avoid them because they don't fit your rose tinted view.

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[mudman]

I see the COWARD went to a gun free zone to enjoy his killing.

[Pathfinder]

FQ,

I agree and disagree with your premise. There are crazies every where but Muslims are FAR more likely to be sociopaths than Christians.  Heck, LOOK at the teachings of both.  As I said before, please name a group of Christians any where that believe that killing non Christians is not only a good thing but a desirable thing.

SJ,

Those Americans you talk of are now Dems (see Bryd, Robert J.)  and I believe it was a bit more that 40 years ago.  BTW you do know that it was the Dems that filibustered against the civil rights act and that Wallace was a Dem, don't you?

I disagree with both of you. For one, so-called "Christian" terrorists are an anomaly these days. The Klan was never a Christian organization any more than it was a Scottish organization (the burning cross was a signal for Clan members to drop what they were doing and bring their claymores to the chief's compound). Even people like th guy who shot the later-term abortion doctor in church was aberrant. So the "moral equivalency" NS about Christian and mooslim terrorists is just that - BS.

More to the point, the koran is clear on the treatment of infidels - kill them all, kill what you can, and Mohammed and Allah will be pleased and you will be blessed. There is no amount of sugar-coating by CAIR or its minions in gummint that can change that. So this is not an individual case of a sociopath, although that claim could be made against all of islam. When you are raised that way, taught to do kill those not like you (and that applies to Sunni if you're Shi'a and vice versa), you cannot claim a psychological disorder - it is an inherrent part of you.

No more PC, no more hiding the fact that islam is a vile, mid-7th century excuse for a so-called religion. It is a destructive force and seeks nothing more than world domination and subjugation. As a free man, I will resist islam in everything I do. Other free men and women should look to do the same, and not apologize or give them a pass on their crimes against humanity.

And I mean today, in the here and now. Not a 1000 years ago with Crusades or a so-called Islamic "golden age" of learning and enlightenment 500 years ago - now.

[shooter32]

More to the point, the koran is clear on the treatment of infidels - kill them all, kill what you can, and Mohammed and Allah will be pleased and you will be blessed. There is no amount of sugar-coating by CAIR or its minions in gummint that can change that. So this is not an individual case of a sociopath, although that claim could be made against all of islam. When you are raised that way, taught to do kill those not like you (and that applies to Sunni if you're Shi'a and vice versa), you cannot claim a psychological disorder - it is an inherrent part of you.

No more PC, no more hiding the fact that islam is a vile, mid-7th century excuse for a so-called religion. It is a destructive force and seeks nothing more than world domination and subjugation. As a free man, I will resist islam in everything I do. Other free men and women should look to do the same, and not apologize or give them a pass on their crimes against humanity.

And I mean today, in the here and now. Not a 1000 years ago with Crusades or a so-called Islamic "golden age" of learning and enlightenment 500 years ago - now.

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[tombogan03884]

Path, The so called "Golden age of Islam" was actually the death of the ARAB culture that gave us things like our number system and the concept of the zero point. Islam has never CREATED anything, it only suppresses and destroys. They actually quit thinking in the 1400's.