Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?

[GlockMeister]

Well fellow shooting enthusiasts. The anti-gunners will have yet more ammo (no pun intended)  yet again from this latest tragedy.  This time the irresponsible,cowardly, obviously non-law-abiding individual used what they're saying was an SKS. Now I suppose the C&R's will be up for debate by the anti-gunners?

Apparently he was 20 yrs. old and had just lost his job and girlfriend. UNREAL!!! They never have the nerve to stay around and take their punishment. They always seem to be cowards and not only take innocent lives, but like the cowards they are, take their own.

My heart goes out along with condolences to all the families, loved ones and friends of those whose lives have been affected by this senseless tragedy.

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The media is already having a field day with it.

[jaybet]

I heard on NPR (gospel truth to the "other side") that the kid used an "assault rifle" that was semi-automatic. In fairness they did also report that he was very troubled- kicked out of his home by his folks (wonder why?) living with parents of friends, lost the girlfriend, lost his job at McDonalds... ok...are we getting the picture?

Sounds like the guy is a bit of a losing proposition OR just a lost kid. Either way, a defective unit. These things happen.
If firearms weren't available to him he might have gone the fertilizer and fuel route, my point being that when defective units malfunction, they'll find a way to malfunction.

If we (the whole country) spent more time and money helping our disadvantaged bretheren instead of having to fight to protect our constitutional rights, we'd all be better off.

[TAB]

I was very sadden to hear about this... even worse that less then a hour afterwards I was on a forum and had some one calling for a all out assult gun ban...   Which I found very intresting as the links they used  said this young man was a convicted felon and had several misdemeaners  a waiting trial.   After I pointed out that legally he was not even aloud to own a gun, I got the old "thats why we need to ban them"

[joemerchant24]

I am on the ground in Omaha. We are efforting to get a pic of the "mall rules" which prohibit firearms. In this state, according to the State Patrol, that is enough to ban CCW.

When I get this data, it will be up on joemerchant24.blogspot.com

[GlockMeister]

A correction and or follow up. The "Media" is now saying it was an AK-47 that was used. from what is also being released, this person, UNDER THE ALREADY CURRENT LAWS, SHOULD NOT HAVE OWNED A GUN. From what I'm understanding , he probably didn't legally own it!

No matter what was used, it is truly tragic!
 

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[GlockMeister]

I am on the ground in Omaha. We are efforting to get a pic of the "mall rules" which prohibit firearms. In this state, according to the State Patrol, that is enough to ban CCW.

When I get this data, it will be up on joemerchant24.blogspot.com

Maybe had someone been CCW,  could have stopped this well in advance of the innocent 8 deaths? Obviously the 9th death is that of the shooter. Given his obvious current mental status had he just killed himself, it may or may not in itself been enough to make national even world headlines and surely wouldn't have gotten the current media attention this is getting!

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[ratcatcher55]

"If we (the whole country) spent more time and money helping our disadvantaged bretheren instead of having to fight to protect our constitutional rights, we'd all be better off."

I need a little explaination of this statement. If I would have taken my NRA dues and given them to Save the Children this wouldn't have happened?

Jaybethel, I  too believe in charity but I'm not seeing the linkage here.

[ellis4538]

MSNBC just had an "EXPERT" on telling America what to do in case they are involved in a mall shooting.  Who can guess if "Drawing your legally licensed firearm and fighting back" was included?  Run, hide in the restroom, etc were his recommendations.  From what I gather from joemerchant24...Mall rules forbid guns in the mall so I think they should arrest the shooter and put him in jail.  Woooops.  Oh yea, if I'm involved in a mall shooting the police will be there to save me (don't mean to offend those LEO's who are with us).

[jaybet]

"If we (the whole country) spent more time and money helping our disadvantaged bretheren instead of having to fight to protect our constitutional rights, we'd all be better off."

I need a little explaination of this statement. If I would have taken my NRA dues and given them to Save the Children this wouldn't have happened?

Jaybethel, I  too believe in charity but I'm not seeing the linkage here.

Not talking about charity...more about priorities. Liberals tend to villify someone for hunting, even though in the long run it is better for the animal populations involved. They would rather ban firearms than take responsibility for the fact that their touchy-feely bullcrap didn't even notice that this kid needed help. BOTH SIDES of the second amendment fight spend way too much time, money, and effort fighting the fight because the liberals are lazy. Fixing the mental health care system or improving it would take a real effort, which they really don't want to expend. It's a lot easier to sit back and screech out a bunch of anti-gun slogans- they don't even have to do their homework.

I have NO problem with any effort or funds expended to protect our constitutional rights, and unfortunately it is completely necessary to have to do so. I just feel that it shouldn't even BE necessary to do so. All that effort and treasure could be put to better use if people's priorities were better.

[pioneer]

Early reports indicate the Omaha Mall shooter was a screwed up 19 year old. He had been “kicked out” by his parents, so a well intentioned, but naive (read liberal) mother of a friend gave him shelter, so she could “help” him. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve dealt with similar situations, which almost always end in tragedy, although usually not on such a grand scale.

The weapon is being reported as an “AK47,” but we shall see what it actually turns out to be. The rifle was stolen from his step-father (the same one who kicked him out?), which is another argument for every gun owner having a gun safe. At least the chief didn't call it an "assault weapon." Yet.

The kid was a loser, with a drug and alcohol problem, who’s parents had given up on him. He is a school drop-out who couldn’t maintain a job or personal relationships. The Omaha police chief said it also appears the mall was chosen because it's a large public place where he'd get a lot of attention. In one of his notes, he wrote, “I'm a piece of shit and now I'm going to be famous.”

As we learn more, the media will eventually come around to focusing on the evil gun, and renew the clarion call for more gun “control.” The Second Amendment will no doubt come under renewed attack, but given the fact that this punk shot up the mall in order to become famous, like Klebold & Harris, I wonder if the First Amendment free press clause come under attack too? Somehow I don’t think so.

I wonder if Westroads Mall is a gun free zone?