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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2007, 01:12:50 PM »
Listened to Paul Harvey News this noon, can't remember who the guest is today, and he brought up some interesting facts:

1.  Young man was kicked out of home by parents;
2.  Foster parents saw hope and took him in;
3.  Unknown what happened, but couldn't keep his McDonald's job - was FIRED;
4.  Girl friend broke up with him;
5.  Up on felony charges for drug issues;
6.  He showed his foster mother the gun the night before, and she never questioned how he could purchase/obtain/posses it based on legal issues in his life;
7.  Foster parents never reported weapon to authorities (isn't that part of their responsibility as foster parents);
8.  Left note behind saying he wanted to be famous.

I know this is a tragedy, I wish it didn't happen, I feel for all involved, but I am talking on the gun debate side at this point.  At least one gun law that would have stopped this was broken by the shooter and ignored by the foster parents.  I know we spend a lot on protecting our rights, but I for one give and spend a lot on helping people as well.  Why can't the Government and anti's redirect their spending from taking away everyone's rights and redirect it toward enforcement and treatment of people like this.

Word last night and a couple of outlets this morning was that the gun was an SKS.  I know that the media likes the fear factor of AK and the ever popular Assult, but until further notice I think I'll go with the LE spokesman that identified it as SKS.  Kinda like the DC sniper a while back when the media was screaming assult weapon after the FBI identified it as a .22-250.  I've never seen a regular production assult weapon chambered in .22-250, but it would not have scared us as much to say it was a target or hunting rifle - Sniper and assult are so much scarier ...
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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2007, 01:14:55 PM »
Jaybethal,

OK Thanks for the explaination.

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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2007, 02:18:18 PM »
Updates from the ground:

Chief Warren has repeatedly called it an assault rifle... from the time he thought it was an SKS to today's revalation of an AK-type rifle (AK47s are full auto, after all.

CNN wins, though, by calling it an "AK47 that was loaded with SKS 7.66 mm ammo"

There is a bit is disagreement, but I have seen the "no guns" part of the rules of conduct. There is a link to a newspaper article on my blog (and Waronguns.com and johnrlott.blogspot.com) that specifically lists Westroads as posted. A Freedom Fiend from my blog visited the site and said the conduct sign, as far as could tell, has been taken down.

I will be visiting another mall tonight, owned by the same management group, to see if their conduct sign is still in place.

There was a person on the 3rd floor when it started who has done everything for his CCW but apply. He said he hasn't because "There are so many posted places its about worthless." I will have his story in detail up on my blog as soon as it is ready.

I have asked the mall management firm, as well as the security firm, for a copy of the mall rules of conduct. SIlence.

Finally, I have "tipped" my former colleagues at two newspapers to look for the sign (and get a photo) as well as the fact that the sign may have been taken down.

More when I have it....


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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 03:57:04 PM »
Friend of mine from Omaha emailed me about this, West Roads is indeed a gun free zone...  Not even mall security has weapons...

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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2007, 04:17:49 PM »
Very little armed security in Omaha. Open carry, legal in all the state, requires an open carry permit that's $150-$180 to get.

I can only think of armed security at Borsheim's, which is Warren Buffett's high-end jewelry store.

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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 05:19:25 PM »
Nebraska doesn't have quite a legal through out the state law, towns can override state law and still enact CCW bans (about a dozen towns the last I looked, including my county seat which I have to pass through to basically go anywhere.....  Hope the unicamerial get's it right this year and strikes down that portion of the bill...

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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 06:52:21 PM »
Updates from the ground:

Chief Warren has repeatedly called it an assault rifle... from the time he thought it was an SKS to today's revalation of an AK-type rifle (AK47s are full auto, after all.

CNN wins, though, by calling it an "AK47 that was loaded with SKS 7.66 mm ammo"

There is a bit is disagreement, but I have seen the "no guns" part of the rules of conduct. There is a link to a newspaper article on my blog (and Waronguns.com and johnrlott.blogspot.com) that specifically lists Westroads as posted. A Freedom Fiend from my blog visited the site and said the conduct sign, as far as could tell, has been taken down.

I will be visiting another mall tonight, owned by the same management group, to see if their conduct sign is still in place.

There was a person on the 3rd floor when it started who has done everything for his CCW but apply. He said he hasn't because "There are so many posted places its about worthless." I will have his story in detail up on my blog as soon as it is ready.

I have asked the mall management firm, as well as the security firm, for a copy of the mall rules of conduct. SIlence.

Finally, I have "tipped" my former colleagues at two newspapers to look for the sign (and get a photo) as well as the fact that the sign may have been taken down.

More when I have it....


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Um, correct me if I'm wrong but they both take the same ammo there Joe. 7.62X39. At least the SKS 59/66 takes that. So does the AK-47. Either way crap like this does not help a gun owners situation/s in this day and time. The anti-gunners and the media and the politicians are already running away with it. Anyhow, I'll leave the rest of what I have to say in my own reply to add to what I initially started. But had to point out they both, at least the 2 (1 of each) I have both use 7.62X39...
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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 07:39:32 PM »
Personally, I think this is a good opportunity to sue the heck out of the Mall - class action suit for reckless endangerment, or maybe criminal negligence for forbidding what is allowed by state law. Until these mopes are held accountable, nothing will change.

Anyone know if the law in NE supports this?
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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 07:59:20 PM »
Heard a interesting statement today from a local radio talk show host. He made the comment (one I had niether heard, or thought of) That the reason there are more shooting like this today than in the past is because the population is so much greater than it was 75 or even 50 years ago. If you have a certain percentage of the population that is nuts, then you will more nuts. I had never thought about it that way, and it kinda makes sense. This host is niether openly pro or anti gun.  Thoughts anyone?


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Re: Recent Mall shooting in Nebraska?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 08:12:30 PM »
Pathfinder, they are all scared of Ernie Chambers the only black representative in the Unicameral, remember he sued God earlier this year to stop all the natural diasters, and later decided that Tom Osborne, are legendiarny football coach and now athletic director was God, he will be finally term-limited out after this session.....

 

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