Who Or What Can We Declare War On ?

[Timothy]

Which further supports my skepticism as the Church over the centuries was well known for corruption and deceit.

[Rastus]

Rastus, I'm not talking about people who have accepted Christ, but don't have all the information yet.
I'm talking about the ones who will lecture for hours on what the Bible says, and then accept an openly gay bishop,
or like myself, have heard about that "turn the other cheek" thing and rejected it as simply a good way to get hit a second time.

I understood what it was you were saying, no problem there....but it was to address the many people out there who think they know something based upon disinterested or hostile heresay at best; which was my driver for what I wrote and not a retort to you.  I also differ in that the Bible is not "in fact" unreliable, but has been found to be reliable as confirmed again and again in both past and recent archaelogical studies.   

Timothy the big thing is that God let's you believe or not.  Had it not been for more multiple miraculous occurrences in my life the Greek and Darwinian thinking would have overruled me.  It's amazing how a recent occurrence, for instance Mt. St. Helen's eruption, has changed settled science geological observations that supposedly covered millions of years to mere decades.  In fact the trumpet of slow process and ancient earth in a geological sense is being turned on it's ear time and again with event based observations that provide observable events that are exacting in matching geological records thought 10's or 100's of millions of years old.  Solid rock formed in years not millions.

We all have our choice to believe or not.  I believe and have a reason to.

I like the Geneva Bible which is what the Founders of these United States of America used...they would not have been caught dead with the King James Bible (which is still a very good translation of the Greek except for differences in English language.). 

[Timothy]

Rastus, my understanding of the Word comes from the faith in the Word and though I may be a flawed Christian and quite skeptical in my nature doesn't say that I don't believe!  I myself have searched for the ever evasive truth but I cannot believe that there is this much evil in the world without the good to balance things out.  As you say, it's not so much our belief in God but His belief in us!  I live my life as best I can and my Christian upbringing is the foundation of that life regardless of my skepticism!

 

[tombogan03884]

Rastus, my understanding of the Word comes from the faith in the Word and though I may be a flawed Christian and quite skeptical in my nature doesn't say that I don't believe!  I myself have searched for the ever evasive truth but I cannot believe that there is this much evil in the world without the good to balance things out.  As you say, it's not so much our belief in God but His belief in us!  I live my life as best I can and my Christian upbringing is the foundation of that life regardless of my skepticism!

 

Even atheists, though they would never admit it, are CULTURALLY influenced by Judeo-Christian philosophy.
You don't see them beheading people who hate Obama, or working on Dec 25th.
Come to think of it, that might be the way to shut them up about banning crosses and prayers.
Fine, we won't pray, you don't get Christmas bonus's or holidays 

[Timothy]

Even atheists, though they would never admit it, are CULTURALLY influenced by Judeo-Christian philosophy.
You don't see them beheading people who hate Obama, or working on Dec 25th.
Come to think of it, that might be the way to shut them up about banning crosses and prayers.
Fine, we won't pray, you don't get Christmas bonus's or holidays  

I only know one atheist (that I know of) and he hates everybody!  He plays no favorites...

He also gets x-mas off every year without complaint!

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[kmitch200]

I'm talking about the ones who will lecture for hours on what the Bible says, and then accept an openly gay bishop,
or like myself, have heard about that "turn the other cheek" thing and rejected it as simply a good way to get hit a second time.

Reading a parable or a metaphor and taking it literally is a mistake IMHO.

 
 

[tombogan03884]

Reading a parable or a metaphor and taking it literally is a mistake IMHO.

True enough, but rather than "turn the other cheek" the one I put my faith in is "f*ck me once shame on you, f*ck me twice, shame on me"

Here's 2 related parables for you,
Never look a gift horse in the mouth
Beware of Greeks bearing gifts

FQ will probably get the joke .   
           

[fatbaldguy]

True enough, but rather than "turn the other cheek" the one I put my faith in is "f*ck me once shame on you, f*ck me twice, shame on me"

Here's 2 related parables for you,
Never look a gift horse in the mouth
Beware of Greeks bearing gifts

FQ will probably get the joke .   
           

He ain't the only one!

[kmitch200]

True enough, but rather than "turn the other cheek" the one I put my faith in is "f*ck me once shame on you, f*ck me twice, shame on me"

I like that one me own self. 

Here's 2 related parables for you,
Never look a gift horse in the mouth
Beware of Greeks bearing gifts
FQ will probably get the joke .   

 

[fightingquaker13]

Tom, important safety tip! Don't turn that other cheek to the Greeks bearing gifts, its a trap! Bastards!
FQ13