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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Jackel on August 20, 2009, 10:21:32 PM
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what do you do 4 a living
as most of u know im ex mill. and am now working at my dads farm in MT.
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Disabled. Retired from GM. We had another thread on this if anyone can find it.
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I've been job hunting for just over 6 months. I lost my overtime when BO got nominated and lost my job when he got sworn in.
so basically I don't do anything.
Here's the thread Frank mentioned
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=5506.0
There are almost 8100 threads so having repeats is nothing new ;D
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I've been job hunting for just over 6 months. I lost my overtime when BO got nominated and lost my job when he got sworn in.
so basically I don't do anything.
Here's the thread Frank mentioned
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=5506.0
There are almost 8100 threads so having repeats is nothing new ;D
Again (damnit) Tom has it it right. Re-runs are not a problem if its interesting. Me, unemployed teacher since May. Chalk me, Tom and Path up to a reality check for the rest of you. A teacher, a machinist and a banker. Three very different industries, all serious about our jobs and all middle aged and SOL. It does send a message to cut spending, save, and take nothing for granted. That car you've got can be fixed for cheaper than payments on a new one. It really is sad. Three necessary professions. Those who handle the money, those who make stuff, and those who teach the next generation out of work, not for cause but because of budget cuts. Its not like we were massage therapists or some other nonsense service that could be easily cut back on. It does make you wonder.
FQ13
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Again (damnit) Tom has it it right. Re-runs are not a problem if its interesting. Me, unemployed teacher since May. Chalk me, Tom and Path up to a reality check for the rest of you. A teacher, a machinist and a banker. Three very different industries, all serious about our jobs and all middle aged and SOL. It does send a message to cut spending, save, and take nothing for granted. That car you've got can be fixed for cheaper than payments on a new one. It really is sad. Three necessary professions. Those who handle the money, those who make stuff, and those who teach the next generation out of work, not for cause but because of budget cuts. Its not like we were massage therapists or some other nonsense service that could be easily cut back on. It does make you wonder.
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The REALLY scary part of it is that the place that laid me off made Medical devices, I spent 19 months machining biopsy cups, Now the customers aren't buying them at anywhere NEAR the rate they were. Whats THAT tell you about Obamacare.
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Again (damnit) Tom has it it right. Re-runs are not a problem if its interesting. Me, unemployed teacher since May. Chalk me, Tom and Path up to a reality check for the rest of you. A teacher, a machinist and a banker. Three very different industries, all serious about our jobs and all middle aged and SOL. It does send a message to cut spending, save, and take nothing for granted. That car you've got can be fixed for cheaper than payments on a new one. It really is sad. Three necessary professions. Those who handle the money, those who make stuff, and those who teach the next generation out of work, not for cause but because of budget cuts. Its not like we were massage therapists or some other nonsense service that could be easily cut back on. It does make you wonder.
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There are those on this board (Marshalette) who MIGHT take offense at that characterization.
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There are those on this board (Marshalette) who MIGHT take offense at that characterization.
As busy as M'ette has been lately she MIGHT appreciate a little slow down.
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As busy as M'ette has been lately she MIGHT appreciate a little slow down.
Yea, I hear it is really cutting into her dart and fishing time ... or was it the other way around ::)
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Yea, I hear it is really cutting into her dart and fishing time ... or was it the other way around ::)
More importantly is it is cutting into her FORUM time !
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More importantly is it is cutting into her FORUM time !
We have been out of control for way to long ;D
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Service Manager for a european service shop, part time auto technician and part time gunsmith. The last 2 are to support the habit.
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Semi retired home re-modeler. These days I build hunting and fishing camps so I can visit them. Part of the contract. I also play bass guitar with some friends.
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Semi retired home re-modeler. These days I build hunting and fishing camps so I can visit them. Part of the contract. I also play bass guitar with some friends.
You should have a lot to talk about with TAB then , as he has not , intentionally, reached the semi retired stage yet.
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We have been out of control for way to long ;D
Some of us need discipline more than others. Doncha Haz? ;D
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Some of us need discipline more than others. Doncha Haz? ;D
Why are you asking Haz, he doesn't NEED it, he just LIKES it. ;D
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Left Chrysler in April after 13 years. Applied for Park Ranger, Customs, Border Patrol, Immigration and part time teaching positions. Tough market out there at the moment. Figured being a veteran and having a couple of college degrees I would be able to find a job rather easy. Bad timing on my part. Now I am a collector of job denial letters and emails, LOL. ;D
It is good to be out of control for time to time. That is why I love this forum.
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Left Chrysler in April after 13 years. Applied for Park Ranger, Customs, Border Patrol, Immigration and part time teaching positions. Tough market out there at the moment. Figured being a veteran and having a couple of college degrees I would be able to find a job rather easy. Bad timing on my part. Now I am a collector of job denial letters and emails, LOL. ;D
It is good to be out of control for time to time. That is why I love this forum.
Congratulations, most don't even reply in my industry unless they are interested.
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Left Chrysler in April after 13 years. Applied for Park Ranger, Customs, Border Patrol, Immigration and part time teaching positions. Tough market out there at the moment. Figured being a veteran and having a couple of college degrees I would be able to find a job rather easy. Bad timing on my part. Now I am a collector of job denial letters and emails, LOL. ;D
It is good to be out of control for time to time. That is why I love this forum.
ssssshhhhhhh
she's lurking ;D
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As much as I dislike a lot of my job and the way it messes with personal life, I am thankful for it every time the paycheck doesn't bounce!
Ping, I don't know about you, but Tom and I have an issue with age. That fifty mark scares a lot of employers. Another issue for me if I were to ever need it is that my degree is good for one thing and one thing only. I have friends that have found that out and returned to a business they were burnt out at. They are both doing fine so far, but I often wonder how much longer they will (can) keep it up.
Good luck to all that are in the market!
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I still sell parts at a chevy dealer...
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Just another electrical engineer that got RIF'd (reduction in force) a couple of months ago.
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LOL at Shooter32. I understand what you are saying M58. I am forty and wondering if that is part of the problem. I just keep plugging away sending out resumés and adding to my knowledge. Thought about working on a master's degree, but really don't want to waste the money when I see friends who have graduate degrees out on the street. Scary.
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Some of us need discipline more than others. Doncha Haz? ;D
Who? ME!?
Just cause it's Friday, I've had a couple of beers and am headed to the American Legion you think I'm out of control!
PSHAW, the night is still young and I have not yet begun to fight DRINK!
;D
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I still sell parts at a chevy dealer...
Government employee, huh? ;D
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yeah.
any of you retired cops that still like the spark of action should consider Private security contracting. Its not all special forces guys. on one PSD there were 3 retired cops on detail. they are mostly better pistol shooters and drivers than anyone else, and the money is good.
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I still sell parts at a chevy dealer...
Glad to hear your place didn't get shut down.
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yeah.
any of you retired cops that still like the spark of action should consider Private security contracting. Its not all special forces guys. on one PSD there were 3 retired cops on detail. they are mostly better pistol shooters and drivers than anyone else, and the money is good.
Any need for political scientists who can shoot pretty good and give one heck of a good briefing or debriefing on the subject of your choice, once we are briefed in? ;D
FQ13
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actually yeah!
BW and most security companies are looking for more than mercenaries, they are still running a business and need accountants, command structure etc.
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Any need for political scientists who can shoot pretty good and give one heck of a good briefing or debriefing on the subject of your choice, once we are briefed in? ;D
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Or machine operator/ sheet metal fabricator with the same other qualifications ;D
Never went to college, but I went to Parris Island ;D
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yeah.
any of you retired cops that still like the spark of action should consider Private security contracting. Its not all special forces guys. on one PSD there were 3 retired cops on detail. they are mostly better pistol shooters and drivers than anyone else, and the money is good.
That has to be one of the scariest statements I have ever heard, and doesn't say much for everyone else. ;)
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not really, nearly every enlisted's primary weapon is his rifle.
now cops see their primary weapon as their pistol.
you see my logic ;D
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Generally they have a worse record than CCW's, I know that statistically civilians fire fewer shots to achieve the same results .
I also know that whenever I've been shooting when the local cops and SD have been I've gotten tighter groups at longer range on smaller targets. And to forestall one comment, I don't get to practice that much, for example, the only time I have been to the range this YEAR, has been to drop off a job application, so it isn't because I have more practice.
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well the decent cops anyway ;)
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not really, nearly every enlisted's primary weapon is his rifle.
now cops see their primary weapon as their pistol.
you see my logic ;D
Most cops can't shoot for crap (yes, there are exceptions, and no, I am not bashing cops) and have very poor gun handling skills. That's my logic. ;)
I have always said, If I am being held hostage, don't send the cops in to get me, just toss a gun in the window and I'll take care of it myself. Less chance of getting hurt that way. ;D
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90% of them couldn't hit their ass with both hands and would stand a very good chance of blowing a cheek off if they tried.
Thats why those NYC cops fired 40 some odd rounds at a guy in a hallway and only hit him 3 - 5 times, and only ONE of those was a solid hit, There was a case in Ca. in the 90's Several cops woke up a woman sleeping in her car, she reached for something they emptied their pistols, she was not hurt.
Yeah, Cops are GREAT with pistols, Very few of them are Jim Cirrilo, or Mossad Ayoob.
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Cops and poor pistol skills is something I've never understood. I know its real. I've seen it, I've read about it, I just don't get it. I mean not knowing how to shoot isn't just not knowing how to do your job, its not knowing how to stay alive. Maybe I'm strange, but when I worked at an outfitters, I studied all the catalogs from North Face and Patagonia etc so I could tell my customers the details of what we were selling. When I was a courier I spent some QT with a street map of DC looking for shortcuts that would save me time and money and as a teacher I spend 4 hours in the library searching for every hour I spend lecturing on a new class. Why? To do my job right. If I were a cop, where the consequenses of a bad shot or a slow draw was your life or that of an innocent you were supposed to protect I would be at the range at least once a week. That's not internet tough guy stuff either, its just how I view my work, I take it seriously and do my job. The worst I've had to worry about is getting fired, not getting shot. I do not get cops who are not religious about pistol practice.
FQ13
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It's really quite simple FQ, the vast majority of Cops go through their entire career and never draw their weapon any where but the range.
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i guess. great tax money huh?
well in my experience with cops that have actually wanted to be a contractor, they have very high standards of pistol shooting. They cant shoot a AR 15 for their balls though.
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90% of them couldn't hit their ass with both hands and would stand a very good chance of blowing a cheek off if they tried.
Thats why those NYC cops fired 40 some odd rounds at a guy in a hallway and only hit him 3 - 5 times, and only ONE of those was a solid hit, There was a case in Ca. in the 90's Several cops woke up a woman sleeping in her car, she reached for something they emptied their pistols, she was not hurt.
Yeah, Cops are GREAT with pistols, Very few of them are Jim Cirrilo, or Mossad Ayoob.
The woman in the car was shot 12 times and died. Local news really were out to hang these cops. She was "asleep" in her car with a gun in her lap. The cops said that when they tried to wake her that she reached for the gun. We'll never hear her side. The cops were fired. Maybe they were right maybe not. She was black and the cops were white, so it became a Jesse Jackson issue and he's always out to lynch anyone that he says wrongs a black person. I don't know if we ever got the truth. The majority of the cops I know here in California have fellow officers on the force that are of all different races and they constantly trust their backs to one another, so I don't buy that race was an issue. It's sad that a 19 year old girl's life was ended, but she may have been mostly responsible for those consequences.
I shoot with some cops that are great shots and others that are just OK. I compete with a couple of academy cadets that can beat anyone - a product of video game enhanced hand-eye coordination. Some cops shoot. Some don't. Just like the rest of the population, there are some that are into guns and some that aren't.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9906/12/riverside.firing/
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It wasn't that one, That happened when I was out there, when it came on the news My former FIL said well at least they hit this one, or words to that effect I asked him what he was talking about he told me the story of that I posted.
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I currently fly a King Air 200 for the largest air medical provider in the world. We shall see how long that lasts when obamacare starts paying us pennies on the dollar for our efforts. I also flight instruct on the side, but more so for enjoyment than money. And although I make no money at it, I play guitar in a christian band.
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IT for me
like in the Hard Earned Thread
I am a qualified Apple Tech I now am mostly doing onsite work.
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IT for me
like in the Hard Earned Thread
I am a qualified Apple Tech I now am mostly doing onsite work.
Do you peel or core them? ;D
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BTW: I am a retired LEO. Currently doing a morning drive radio show (mainly for shits and giggles, though they do pay me reasonably well), and my REAL job is managing a cell phone/satellite TV store.
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Video game development, chaotic right now, and artist.
90% of them couldn't hit their ass with both hands and would stand a very good chance of blowing a cheek off if they tried.
Thats why those NYC cops fired 40 some odd rounds at a guy in a hallway and only hit him 3 - 5 times, and only ONE of those was a solid hit, There was a case in Ca. in the 90's Several cops woke up a woman sleeping in her car, she reached for something they emptied their pistols, she was not hurt.
Yeah, Cops are GREAT with pistols, Very few of them are Jim Cirrilo, or Mossad Ayoob.
I was out shooting some of the state police when I was twelve. These days it doesn't seem like a priority for local traffic enforcement department law enforcement.
Does that say more about the LEO's or me?
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Cops and poor pistol skills is something I've never understood. I know its real. I've seen it, I've read about it, I just don't get it. I mean not knowing how to shoot isn't just not knowing how to do your job, its not knowing how to stay alive. Maybe I'm strange, but when I worked at an outfitters, I studied all the catalogs from North Face and Patagonia etc so I could tell my customers the details of what we were selling. When I was a courier I spent some QT with a street map of DC looking for shortcuts that would save me time and money and as a teacher I spend 4 hours in the library searching for every hour I spend lecturing on a new class. Why? To do my job right. If I were a cop, where the consequenses of a bad shot or a slow draw was your life or that of an innocent you were supposed to protect I would be at the range at least once a week. That's not internet tough guy stuff either, its just how I view my work, I take it seriously and do my job. The worst I've had to worry about is getting fired, not getting shot. I do not get cops who are not religious about pistol practice.
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Most cops get into that line of work for reasons other than guns - service, community work, no need to get a college education and still make decent money, promotions, etc. And, as Tom noted, most never draw their weapon. One of the Sheriff's Captains (there are only 3) did not even know what model Glock or what brand/type of ammo he carried, just not his thing.
The Sheriff's gun trainer here had some of the worst safety skills I've seen by anyone other than a newbie - and I like him! Had people with fingers on triggers waving the muzzle all over the place - with open boxes of ammo within inches of the people. No eye protection even available on the range either.
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"if you ever have a home invasion, move into your safe room and dial 911"
no thanks. me and Mr. colt 45 will take care of this joker on our own thank you very much.
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Just a lowly ABYC marine electrician, have a knack for wiring things, the Italians and other European yacht builders keep us busy, as they just make things more complicated...and nice junk as we say,...
but the rich are getting "ansy" with all the the "tax the rich" fodder out there.... It almost killed us in the Clinton era with the Luxury tax.
Gotta keep the uber rich around, it keeps not just us sparky's around, but many more tradesmen as well.
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Just a lowly ABYC marine electrician, have a knack for wiring things, the Italians and other European yacht builders keep us busy, as they just make things more complicated...and nice junk as we say,...
but the rich are getting "ansy" with all the the "tax the rich" fodder out there.... It almost killed us in the Clinton era with the Luxury tax.
Gotta keep the uber rich around, it keeps not just us sparky's around, but many more tradesmen as well.
Hmmmmmmm ... Sounds like the basics of trickle down economics works. Not saying everything with the program is perfect, but the principle that says if you don't let the spenders have their money to spend you hurt more than just them is right on!
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Hmmmmmmm ... Sounds like the basics of trickle down economics works. Not saying everything with the program is perfect, but the principle that says if you don't let the spenders have their money to spend you hurt more than just them is right on!
That can't possibly work. Everyone knows that the rich have all the money, there is no more to go around, and they just hoard it in their mattress without spending it to keep the little guy down. The only thing to do is take steal it from them. The government knows the right thing to do with the money and the best way to spend it give it away waste it.
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Video game development, chaotic right now, and artist.
I was out shooting some of the state police when I was twelve. These days it doesn't seem like a priority for local traffic enforcement department law enforcement.
Does that say more about the LEO's or me?
How much time in juvie hall did ya get?
;D