A very graphic video about driving!!

[tombogan03884]

 Back in the 80's El Salvador was reported to have the toughest drunk driving penalties in the world, if a road block found you drunk they would drag you out and shoot you.
Of course, in those days if you did not support the people who set up the road block they would probably drag you out and shoot you as well.

[billt]

The television show "Mythbusters" did a good episode recently on the whole drunk driving / cell phone talking thing. Their findings were interesting. The tests were done under the supervision of the California Highway Patrol on a closed course. First, the 2 participants consumed enough alcohol until they blew just over the legal limit on a police provided, certified, Breathalyzer. They then drove the course set up by "Mythbusters", and the police. The police recorded their "scores".

The next day after all of the affects of the alcohol wore off, they drove the exact same course while talking on a cell phone and were being asked simple questions on the phone. Both of the testers did FAR WORSE when talking on the phone as opposed to driving under the influence above the "legal" limit!

I'm not using this in support of driving after drinking, but to show how foolish our laws have become. And now, to make matters even worse, we have people driving while TEXTING! Very few states have laws preventing this. The reason is once again the almighty buck. Cell phone providers lobby heavily and constantly to prevent these kind of laws from being past. It should be a "gimme". More idiotic laws from the state of Arizona. Here it is perfectly legal to drive on the freeway, or anywhere else, with people riding in the back of a open pickup truck bed. But if the driver in the pickup isn't wearing his or her seat belt, they will receive a ticket! Many times while driving to and from work I'll see pickup trucks owned and operated by landscape companies driving 65+ MPH down the freeway with half a dozen Mexicans riding in the back. If that truck had to lock up his brakes and slid sideways, there would be bodies all over the road. All perfectly legal mind you. Yet we worry, and live or die by .01 on the Breathalyzer. Complete nonsense.  Bill T.

[philw]

wow  you can still do that here 

crap  here it is a $200 fine and 3 points on your licence if you are busted talking on the phone while driving 


and I have been busted for that a couple of times 


lol Hay Rob..  ( I was on the phone to him once )   and I got away with just a warning   


the Copper saw my firearms licence  so we were talking about the New S&W  M&P's that SAPOL are getting.  these 2 had them all ready and recon I should get one  hehe we spent about 10 mins talking about guns  and at the end  said   just stay off the phone and have a good one  

[sledgemeister]

wow  you can still do that here 

crap  here it is a $200 fine and 3 points on your licence if you are busted talking on the phone while driving 


and I have been busted for that a couple of times 


lol Hay Rob..  ( I was on the phone to him once )   and I got away with just a warning   


the Copper saw my firearms licence  so we were talking about the New S&W  M&P's that SAPOL are getting.  these 2 had them all ready and recon I should get one  hehe we spent about 10 mins talking about guns  and at the end  said   just stay off the phone and have a good one  

Unless its a public holiday and then its double points!  and yes I rememebr LOL

[Solus]

Back in the 80's El Salvador was reported to have the toughest drunk driving penalties in the world, if a road block found you drunk they would drag you out and shoot you.
Of course, in those days if you did not support the people who set up the road block they would probably drag you out and shoot you as well.

I remember reading about that and my thoughts were that you had nothing to lose by killing the cops.

That is also my objection to the death penalty for kidnapping.  Why make it the best option for a kidnapper to kill the kid.

Also, during the last presidential campaign, McCain and Obama both supported the death penalty for child molesters.  I was against it for the same reason.  When encourage these mad dogs to kill their victims.   

[Sponsor]

[sledgemeister]

I remember reading about that and my thoughts were that you had nothing to lose by killing the cops.

That is also my objection to the death penalty for kidnapping.  Why make it the best option for a kidnapper to kill the kid.

Also, during the last presidential campaign, McCain and Obama both supported the death penalty for child molesters.  I was against it for the same reason.  When encourage these mad dogs to kill their victims.   

Interesting thought process. Here in aus they did away with capital punishment and I as many now would like to see it reintroduced although that seems a realistic imposibility. Crimes such as child rape/murders, serial paedophiles , serial killer types etc I have no hesitation in seeing that they forfeit their life for their crimes. My only concern would be the lengthy trial process and appeals. I think where there is no doubt of their guilt ie overwhelming evidence, witnesses a quick trip out back behind a wall and a .45 to the back of the head would be the best ooption. But I can sort of see your point, never the less I diasagree.

[tombogan03884]

 Solus, regular kidnapping is usually done for profit, killing the victim leaves the family no incentive to pay.
As for sexual predators they are serial criminals, who will continue to offend until they are stopped PERMANENTLY.

[Solus]

Solus, regular kidnapping is usually done for profit, killing the victim leaves the family no incentive to pay.
As for sexual predators they are serial criminals, who will continue to offend until they are stopped PERMANENTLY.

Correct about the kidnapping.

So the kidnappers get the cash.  Do they now release a witness that could lead them to the death penalty or do they kill this witness since they will suffer no greater consequences if caught.

The same applies to sexual predators.  They will be given incentive to make sure every sexual assault will end in murder to avoid releasing a witness that could send them to the chair.

I am not against the death penalty.  However with some of the recent uses of DNA evidence to show that some of them on death row were innocent and that some of those cases were poorly tried, I am uneasy about letting things proceed the way the way they have.

[philw]

Unless its a public holiday and then its double points!  and yes I rememebr LOL

not  here in SA