one barbarian reporting Sir , can you point me towards the nearest gate

[JC5123]

Ok, I'm gonna hijack the thread for a moment, but I just had a flash that I wanted to run by you guys.

I got thinking about James Hoffa's statement that we need to take the son's of bitches out. Obama refuses to refute the statement because he is so beholden to the unions. The TEAMSTERS UNION. Let that sink in for a moment.

Basically what this says to me is that our country is now being run by the mob, and Obama is their front man. And here all this time I was thinking it was Soros pulling the strings. 

Ok hijack over. 

[Ichiban]

Ok, I'm gonna hijack the thread for a moment, but I just had a flash that I wanted to run by you guys.

What an appropriate term when talking about the teamsters. 

[tombogan03884]

Both, Soros and his socialist and elitist co-conspirators are using the socialist and Mafia dominated Union thugs to advance their objectives.

[Solus]

Ok, I'm gonna hijack the thread for a moment, but I just had a flash that I wanted to run by you guys.

I got thinking about James Hoffa's statement that we need to take the son's of bitches out. Obama refuses to refute the statement because he is so beholden to the unions. The TEAMSTERS UNION. Let that sink in for a moment.

Basically what this says to me is that our country is now being run by the mob, and Obama is their front man. And here all this time I was thinking it was Soros pulling the strings. 

Ok hijack over. 

yeah...you need a program to tell which puppet is pulling what other puppet's strings.

[tombogan03884]

If you wanted to do the research you could follow the connections of mentors, friends, and influence  from Capone  to Blagoyavitch and Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Illinois

Six Illinois governors have been charged with crimes during or after their governorships; four were convicted, and of those, one (Blagojevich) was first impeached and removed from office.
[edit] Acquitted

    Len Small (R), governor from 1921 to 1929, was indicted in office for corruption. He was acquitted; thereafter, eight of the jurors received state jobs. Among his defense lawyers was former governor Joseph Fifer, who asserted, in pre-trial hearings, that the governorship has the divine right of kings.[3]
    William G. Stratton (R), governor from 1953 to 1961, was acquitted of tax evasion in 1965.[citation needed]

[edit] Convicted

    Otto Kerner, Jr. (D), Stratton's successor and later a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, was convicted of 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and income-tax charges from his time as governor,[4] and received 3 years in prison and a $50,000 fine in 1973. He was prosecuted by future Illinois governor Jim Thompson.[5]
    Dan Walker (D), governor from 1973 to 1977, was later involved in the Savings and loan scandals and convicted of federal crimes related to fraudulent loans to himself from his own First American Savings & Loan Association of Oak Brook. He was sentenced to seven years in prison with five years of probation following his release.[6]
    George H. Ryan (R), governor from 1999 to 2003, was convicted in 2006 of corruption related to his time as Illinois Secretary of State in the 1990s, when commercial driver's licenses were issued to unqualified truckers in exchange for bribes, and one of the truckers was involved in a crash that killed six children. Former governor Jim Thompson, whom Ryan had served under as Lieutenant Governor of Illinois in the 1980s, was manager of the law firm that defended Ryan.[citation needed] Ryan is slated for release in 2013.
    Rod Blagojevich (D), governor from 2003 to 2009, and Ryan's successor, was impeached and removed from office by the Illinois General Assembly in a unanimous vote in January 2009 after being tied to multiple "pay to play" schemes.[1] In August 2010, he was convicted of lying to the FBI in connection with the investigation, but the jury deadlocked on 23 other charges.[7] Blagojevich was retried on 20 counts from his 2010 trial and on June 27, 2011, Blagojevich was convicted on 17 counts of fraud, acquitted on one count and the jury was hung on two.

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[Pathfinder]

    Haven't read your bible very closely have you .
Jesus was a social revolutionary who's words and actions challenged the leading authorities of his people.
That was why Pilate felt it so important that the Jews execute him rather than Rome doing it. He did not want to have to deal with a rebellion.

Apparently, neither have you!! 

Pilate did not want anything to do with this trial, considered it a local affair only. There were a couple of times in the Bible that he stated to the crowds that he could find nothing wrong with Jesus and had no grounds to execute Him.

It was only after being pressed by the Pharisees - whom Jesus had personally called hypocrites to their faces - and the crowd was getting rowdy, that Pilate relented and ordered the execution. The Jews - under Roman law - had no authority to execute criminals, only a Roman governor could order an execution.

The Romans usually allowed any religious practice, including some fairly bizarre ones, but even hint at a revolt or riot, and all bets were off. Like you said, this was Pilate avoiding a riot in an already touchy province that would not take much to devolve into a revolt.

[Pathfinder]

Otto Kerner, Jr. (D), Stratton's successor and later a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, was convicted of 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and income-tax charges from his time as governor,[4] and received 3 years in prison and a $50,000 fine in 1973. He was prosecuted by future Illinois governor Jim Thompson.[5]

As a former denizen of the cesspool that is Illinois, Thompson should also be on this list of convicted former Governors. He was blessed at leaving office having packed the State .gov with his cronies and also under Repubby Presidents, so no Federal beefs.

IMHO he was a liar and a cheat, constantly caught using state property for personal gain - like the infamous photo of him directing State Troopers carrying the precious antiques (personal) he had just bought on a junket somewhere - using the State plane as well to bring them to Springfield. Just a minor example of egregious wrongs.

[tombogan03884]

 It's Chicago, Party doesn't matter, ask Rahm, who is listed as "unaffiliated" the Mayor that Dem Capone bought, "Big Bill" Thompson, was an R.

Unaffiliated ? What a freaking joke.