It's Not A Pistol Or A Carbine/Rifle... Franklin Armory's AR-15 No NFA Req'd

[bafsu92]

You aren't looking very hard.  Used M16s are still well below 20k. New unfired guns are closer to 20-25. 

http://subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=19540&query=retrieval


http://subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=19532&query=retrieval


New unfired for 24k. 

http://subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=19529&query=retrieval

Wow, now that I know I can get one for 13k I might have to rush out and get 2 

[capbyrd]

Well TAB did say that IF you could find them, DO IT!  So blame TAB for the expense.  haha

[tombogan03884]

Back on the original topic, I just don't see any practical use for it.
With no stock it will be no more accurate than a pistol, while taking up much more room.
I suspect the ones that get sold before interest fades will be used at the range once or twice for some "spray and pray" plinking then stuck in the back of the safe.

[capbyrd]

The stock less ARs can be pretty accurate. I read a review a while back of a guy that practiced a cheek weld on the buffer tube that gave him rifle accuracy without having to have the buttstock.  Seems to make sense to me. 

[Solus]

The stock less ARs can be pretty accurate. I read a review a while back of a guy that practiced a cheek weld on the buffer tube that gave him rifle accuracy without having to have the buttstock.  Seems to make sense to me. 

Actually, I don't see the value of needing the buffer tube and giving up the stock.  I guess you save a few ounces, but leave the tube exposed and give up a lot of useability.

Next step would be to put a cheek piece and butt plate on the tube for useability.  Then reinforce it for it's own protection.

[Sponsor]

[capbyrd]

If you add a stock to it, it becomes an SBR requiring a 200 dollar tax stamp. 

[tombogan03884]

So ? if a short barrel is that important to you pay the $200 instead of wasting $1150 on a gimmick.

[bafsu92]

So ? if a short barrel is that important to you pay the $200 instead of wasting $1150 on a gimmick.

To a lot of people it's not the $200, it's the fact that you now have a federally registered firearm. I know the argument is if you've ever filled out a 4473 or had a NICS background check you can be tracked if they want to. While true if you're a serious enough: collector, gun nut, enter your favorite term here, to pay to own something that .gov views as evil then you are on a even watchier watch list. I know a lot of people will say this is just paranoia but many will not take a chance. I know at least a few people who own many guns, 10 or more, and have never done a background check or filled out a 4473. They either got them through relatives or bought them in private sales. I always try to keep at least half my collection as private sale items that I never did a 4473 on. If it ever looks like they're going to come after all guns they will have to look very hard for some of mine. If they don't know you have them to begin with they'll be much harder to find.

As far as the original topic it is possible to be extremely precise with the pistol buffer tube and a good cheek weld. My issue is the 5.56 round is so anemic from a short barrel why bother.

[capbyrd]

300BLK upper? 

[bafsu92]

300BLK upper? 

That's my pick