Combat handgun. What do you want?

[mkm]

Now if you want to take into account any major foreign force we may face, not 3rd world countries or taliban, will most likely have body armor or some type of flak jacket then I could see going the complete opposite direction and looking at the FN-5.7. User friendly controls, nearly no recoil, excellent sights, fully ambidextrous and ridiculously high magazine capacity of 20 or even 30rds. I wouldn't necessarily choose it as a civilian defensive sidearm but as a military sidearm it would have a lot of advantages. Additionally you can put more than double the ammo size & weight in the same place as .45acp.

I believe the secret service uses submachine guns in that caliber for that exact reason of armor peircing.

[fightingquaker13]

You will be fined and torn a new asshole if caught by our side. If the other side catches you your dead right there, No questions asked.
And that's fighting a civilized foe.

We aren't fighting a civilized foe, and part of having a handgun is making sure you don't get taken alive. In this case the G26 (at least for me) would be ten minus one. As far as they go? Screw them.
FQ13

[Big Frank]

The Glock 21 or another double-stack .45 would be my pistol of choice. It's a more effective caliber with ball ammo than the 9mm.

[tombogan03884]

Reliable, go bang every time , trustworthy.
Did I mention reliable ?
Everything else is secondary, it has to work.

[Pathfinder]

Slightly off topic, but hey its my thread; how many of our troops do you think slip a box or six of JHPs in their duffle bags before deploying, the Hague Convention be damned? I know I would, but only if I could get away with it. The question is can they and do they? Its not like someone is going to do an autopsy on a dead hostile. Just curious.
FQ13

Wrong on all counts there, Perfessor. Ping and jnevis have schooled you on the SOP they've lived, and TB and others on the reality of carrying the wrong ammo.

On that, I remember reading about Winston Churchill in the Boer War with his Blaster Mauser firing homemade dum-dums. When it was clear he was going to be captured, he discarded all of his ammo so as not to be caught with the dum-dums and executed on the spot. This was well over 100 years ago.

As for autopsies, yeah, they do, sort of. Army and Marine units were investigated due to the high percentage of head shots discovered among the BG's corpses. Seemed the .mil brass was concerned the troops were executing the BGs instead of bringing them in for interrogation. Turned out that the high percentage of head shots is an aspect of urban fighting there, but the .mil was looking at the corpses and investigating.

[Sponsor]

[fightingquaker13]

Nice historical anecdote, and its why I asked the question. No argument, just curiosity.
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[billt]

Plus the 27 rd. mags are a plus...

Hey, TW, how do those things feed? I heard the Hi-Cap Scherer's weren't worth a $h!t, which is why I never bought any. Those look a lot nicer.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MGSGMTGL2127-1.html

R dees dem?

[bafsu92]

Hey, TW, how do those things feed? I heard the Hi-Cap Scherer's weren't worth a $h!t, which is why I never bought any. Those look a lot nicer.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MGSGMTGL2127-1.html

R dees dem?

Not sure on the .45 but I use the factory Glock 33rd 9mm mags in my Kel-Tec Sub2k and they feed flawlessly. I just bought 6 more from Botach, they've got a great sale on them, regular capacity factory Glock mags are $19.99 and the 33rd mags are only $7 more. Free shipping too. I think you can go non-factory in regular length mags and get some that work good but the long one's are finicky. I'd stick to factory Glock for those, just my .02 observation.

[billt]

I have a bunch of the Glock 33 round 9 MM mags, but they don't make a .45 Hi-Cap. The Sherer mags are total garbage, and I was wondering if these are any better?

[twyacht]

I went with the Victory mags, and have no issues, I picked up mine right after Rep. Giffords was shot, as the price jumped, they are Korean, but work just fine...Victory also makes stuff for NATO....FWIW.

They are tough to fully load, at first, but I let mine set with about 18 rds. in it for a week, than stripped and lubed it.

http://www.botachtactical.com/vigl2127ma.html

100% Guarantee.