Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?

[twyacht]

HEADSHOTS!!!!!


http://www.rrdailyherald.com/news/intruder-killed-despite-wearing-body-armor/article_83c410b8-2cad-11e1-95f8-0019bb2963f4.html

Intruder killed despite wearing body armor
Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:58 am | Updated: 10:18 am, Thu Dec 22, 2011.

LITTLETON — An intruder in a four-person armed invasion was killed Wednesday night despite wearing body armor, authorities said.

Lt. Bobby Martin, with the Halifax County Sheriff’s Office, said 20-year-old Ricardo Keith Harley, 20, was killed following an exchange of gunfire at a home in the Short Street area Wednesday. The sheriff’s office is looking for two suspects today as authorities continue their investigation. Martin said deputies are still trying to identify those involved and provide the public with detailed descriptions.

According to Martin, the sheriff’s office responded to a home invasion at 8:17 p.m.

While en route to this location, officers were made aware shots had been fired and one suspect was still in the house.

“Deputy Corey Griffin arrived ... and discovered that one suspect had been shot and was not responding and another was being detained by the home owner, also two other suspects had fled on foot,” Martin said,

Kayman Northington was taken into custody at the home of the victim upon Griffin’s arrival, Martin said, adding one suspect found shot at the scene was later pronounced dead.

Northington is charged with first degree burglary, conspiracy to commit robbery with a dangerous weapon and carrying a concealed weapon. He is being held in the Halifax County Detention Center under a $200,000 bond. His court date is Feb. 1.

Martin said there were four to five people in the house when the home invasion began.

“There were four intruders, three actually made it into the house and one stayed outside,” Martin said. “The gentleman who we took into custody, Kayman Northington, was the first one into the house. After, two more forced their way in behind him.”

Martin said once inside, shots were fired. The home owner had a gun pulled on him.

“From what we are gathering from the witnesses, everybody started scattering and running,” Martin said. “According to witnesses, the bad guys came in and fired a shot. The home owner grabs his gun and fires a shot at one of the bad guys.”

The home’s occupants were able to stop Northington, but the other intruders got away, Martin said.

“The gentleman that did get shot and was killed was wearing body armor,” Martin said. “That is a trend we are starting to see. The bad guys go in to do a robbery or home invasion and they have their body armor on.

“We ask anyone with information about this case to contact the Halifax County Sheriff’s Office at 252-583-8051 or Halifax County Crimestoppers at 252-583-4444,” Martin said.

According to Martin, the robbery was drug related.

He said homeowners have a right to protect their home, and the homeowner in this shooting will not be charged.

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The BG's are getting bolder and despite surging (legal) gun sales, the scumbag criminals, intent on invading homes are stepping up to body armor.

My humble opinion: 12g 00Buck, the 9pellet variety, more projectiles stand a better chance of a headshot or throat hit, than a single bullet. Followed by a 12g slug. Even a center mass shot, from a slug against body armor will crack ribs, or at least hit em' like a train. Followed by another 00Buck. etc,..  And keep firing and moving to another preferably high capacity pistol that begins with "4".

and of course, practice, train, practice, train, learn, practice, train,..Be prepared...

Thoughts?

[Solus]

First thought was that the home owner did a superb job.

Killed one invader who was wearing body armor.  Might have been a lucky shot, but by being prepared enough to have his firearm handy, he made his own luck.  

And he had the presence of mind to capture a second when he felt the threat was resolved.  

Sent two of them running too.

Managed to get a call to the police, perhaps before the shooting started, but he got one made anyway.

Doesn't mention what weapon he used, but it was the right one.....the one he had close.


Does have me thinking about how to carry a Saiga 12 comfortably all day and inconspicuously while getting the morning paper in pajamas.

[Ichiban]

Initial thoughts:
- The victims definitely were not selected at random. 
- Could that mean drugs or gang activity?  Could be rich folks as well (but less likely).
- Four guys in body armor?  That takes some investment capital and planning.
- Good for the Halifax County Sheriff.  Sticking up for a home owner's rights even if something was fishy.
- Follow up shots are important.


Yo, Homie!

[Tyler Durden]

from another source I read it was drug related.

HEY!  WHO KNEW!?

don't deal drugs and you won't have to worry about armored up thugs kicking in your door.

[Timothy]

Yo, Homie!

I wonder if L Ron Hubbard taught him that move!

 

don't deal drugs and you won't have to worry about armored up thugs kicking in your door.

Somebody has to deal drugs, why not drug dealers?

Whom would we be having a failed war with if not the drug dealers?  

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[Tyler Durden]

this thread is going in three different directions:

1.  aim for the head in a home invasion scenario because bad guys are wearing body armor now

2.  tom cruise's shooting ability

3.  the futility of the drug war

well, I will just let this post of mine here cover #2.

That scene is from the movie Collateral, as you probably know it was a Michael Mann directed film.  Remember the street shootout scene in the movie Heat, I think that was a Michael Mann directed flick too.

As far as who taught Tom Cruise those moves, it was a Brit, who I think was former SAS and a body guard to the Royals....or at least I get that impression from his website.

The trainer/firearms consultant was Mick Gould:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8-P8sJNHk0

http://www.mickgould.com/

[MikeBjerum]

This is the reason that most of the things we read or watch that help us learn say not to get locked into a set number of shots.  Watch Pincus when he is at USSA or Ed Head when he is instructing, and the message will be to mix up the number of shots you take on a target.  The idea is to stop the threat, and not to think "two to the body and one to the head."

There is a belief that in a self defense mode we should not fire more than one or two shots per bad guy.  However, we need to be prepared to stop the threat.  In my world that means shoot until they are on the ground.  Once they are down it is time to assess and act accordingly.

Body armor is another reason that I am glad a .45 acp is in my ability to carry and use.  The old joke has been "While you are wondering if or how much your 9mm will expand I know my .45 will never get any smaller."  I also know that there is more energy expended on target with a .45 acp than smaller rounds.  Just as MS showed us last night on using your hand to knock the guy back, a .45 acp to the armored chest will stun until something stops.

[tombogan03884]

Micheal Mann has a reputation for being anal about getting "gun stuff" correct going so far as using actual competitive shooters like Jim Zubiena.

Slow Mo

[Solus]

Well, since we have a  nice drift going  here....

Does anyone know if Tom Cruise is pro 2A?

Seems someone who gets trained to handle firearms like he did might become an enthusiast?

[Timothy]

Well, since we have a  nice drift going  here....

Does anyone know if Tom Cruise is pro 2A?

Seems someone who gets trained to handle firearms like he did might become an enthusiast?

Scientology does believe in the inalienable right to self defense.  Other than that, it's anyones guess with the Hollyweird types!