Author Topic: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?  (Read 12093 times)

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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 03:34:39 PM »
Some time back, I watch a show about the Kevlar fabric vest being easily penetrated by a good knife blade!  Is that still the case?

Yes, or a broad head arrow, but it is a different dynamic as the edge actually cuts the fibers while a bullet is trying to break them.

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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 03:36:34 PM »
Most commercially available body armor will NOT stop most rifle rounds, and not even some handgun rounds.  They're simply not designed to do so.  Speaking from experience, getting hit in the vest with a .38 round will feel like a home run swing from a Major League ballplayer, and unless the BG is completely f....k brain-dead, should serve to make him reassess his career choice.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 03:38:51 PM »
Most commercially available body armor will NOT stop most rifle rounds, and not even some handgun rounds.  They're simply not designed to do so.  Speaking from experience, getting hit in the vest with a .38 round will feel like a home run swing from a Major League ballplayer, and unless the BG is completely f....k brain-dead, should serve to make him reassess his career choice.

Is that when you decided to consider other employment?

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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 04:13:09 PM »
Some time back, I watch a show about the Kevlar fabric vest being easily penetrated by a good knife blade!  Is that still the case?

We were told by the County cops last year that even a screwdriver will penetrate a vest.
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 04:22:47 PM »
Most armor manufacturers have armor designed for edged weapons. This is very common in the UK where they are the biggest threat faced by law enforcement. I have never seen a vest designed to resist both bullets and edged.

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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 04:23:12 PM »
Is that when you decided to consider other employment?

That was part of it.  Are you familiar with the phrase, "They ain't paying me enough for this shit!!"?
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 04:55:36 PM »
That was part of it.  Are you familiar with the phrase, "They ain't paying me enough for this shit!!"?

Kind of why I got out of the Navy but for me it was "They ain't paying me enough to put up with these idiots!"...

idiots = college boys and girls with basket weaving degrees...we had a lot of Reserve officer (ROTC) types...

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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2011, 06:25:25 PM »
Judging by the "clay" mannequin and numerous "dents", I can't imagine a 12g slug or three, would keep a BG in the fight.

Let alone, a 15 rd. barrage, from a high capacity M&P .40, or G21 in .45....

But,.....the mannequin is also NOT shooting back....

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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2011, 06:34:04 PM »
FQ is wrong when he says shot guns blow through vests, shot lacks the velocity and slugs have to much surface area.
7.62 X 25 penetrates due to its high velocity, 5.7 combines that with a small, pointy bullet.
Good thing I didn't say it. I was referring to ARs, not shotguns. 5.56 greentips against an average vest at close range and its through and through unless you're wearing a tac plate. Buckshot, not so much.
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Re: Home Invaders Wearing Body Armor, The Importance Of Accuracy Means?
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2011, 06:37:24 PM »
Good thing I didn't say it. I was referring to ARs, not shotguns. 5.56 greentips against an average vest at close range and its through and through unless you're wearing a tac plate. Buckshot, not so much.
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That's how I read it too....and we're so proud you finally put the decimal point in the right location on 5.56!

 

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