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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 06:13:40 AM »
People should visit Lagos.  Bazillions of $$$$'s from oil production flows into Nigeria and Lagos is a great example of what can be done with overflowing "free" money. 
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It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 04:31:39 PM »
Ulmus, you make good points. The Battle Of Athens, was not a perceived act of tyranny. It was a downright flagrant violation of State Law, and not one participant was charged.

By your own account, you "passed through" the slums,...didn't actually get a chance to stop for a cold one...Probably not any tourist attractions in those slums either.

I could recall the Americans murdered and kidnapped in the Virgin Isles, but that is not the point of my post.

The "college/sporting" acts of destruction of property and vandalism, usually has little or no casualties, and lots of arrests....
Those acts are criminal and those arrested should be charged and convicted.

Usually no personal injuries, and no gunfire, except probably in Detroit which is proof positive of a failed Liberal Minority run city.
I think Hell Night in Detroit is an honored tradition of setting things on fire. I'd like to see a demographic of which ethnic group is most responsible.

I am not forgetting why I'm here. (Going on +4 years),...and cultural, social, political, legal debate done in adult and mostly responsible fashion is why I am still here. Not because of some "politically correct" approach to our Nations demise on many levels.

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They guy makes a serious point.  How many brothers and sisters of another caliber are we losing when all they see are posts like this one insinuating that minorities can not run a government because they are too stupid?  Or that they are too violent?  Or that they are all racists?  Or that they are the destroyers of morailty?


Because the facts are hard to argue with...

Did you know there are still 22 unsolved murders from the L.A. Riots?

The "high road" for me is not white-washing the current state of our Nation. Those that "lurk", and read through these posts, will see that for themselves. Praise and accolades are given all the time to those making a difference. Exposure and pointing out the usurping, corrupt, lying, sinister methods, used by members of our political parties, and other citizens, that you won't hear or read about in the MSM or NY Times, et al, will be called to account.

My OP was based on the factual history I have experienced for myself first hand, and the historical facts of previous riots around this country. The "race baiters" like Sharpton and Jackson, Farrakhan, even BHO, whip a certain ethnic group into a state, and if the outcome is not satisfying for them,....They take to the streets....

I live in Literalville. I've even lurked on other gun forums....Perhaps you don't realize the tenacity, degrading, demeaning, bullying that occurs on other sites...Unlike this one where we can argue, debate, agree to disagree, and compliment each other on a new firearm purchase, a shooting competition attended, a problem seeking advice for a particular gun, or whats a good recipe for Chile.

That's what makes DRTV much better and different... Let the "lurkers" read that...

Take Care Ulmus.

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 06:24:32 PM »
Ulmas posted:
"We can continue on like we're doing now and weaken ourselves and our cause; or we can be true ambasadors and take the high road to immortality."

Can I get a Kumbaya ?
One thing Eric Holder said that was absolutely true," America is a nation of cowards when it comes to discussing race".
The PC brainwashing is evident whenever the subject comes up.
Why are Blacks and Hispanics so over represented in America's prisons ?
Because they commit most of the darn crimes.
In NH ALL minorities represent 3% of the population.
Yet Blacks and Hispanics commit 1/3 to 1/2 of major violent crime.
No body has guts enough to point that out though.
If you don't want to be treated like a scumbag 'gang banger', don't act or dress  like one talk English instead of the eubonics popularized by felons.
Most importantly, if you want your race respected POLICE YOURSELVES so that society doesn't have to.
That is where blacks fall short they embrace the ignorant, felonious, and sociopathic while demeaning the hard working and successful as an "Uncle Tom", or an "Oreo".

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 08:36:15 PM »
Sorry I couldn't reply last night. Just really tired from work.

Tombogan03884:
"We are the world" would be more my generation's song than Kumbaya.   ;)
It's not the topic of dicussion can be had, but it is the how that needs to stated first.  We need to find wording that opens up a discussion instead of making people defensive.  You can't argue with a wall.

As for the high number of blacks and hispanics in prison, I can't claim to know the answer to that.
I can say people found it easier to believe a white woman claiming a black man killed her kids than her killing them herrself before the evidece proved her to be the killer.

A question for you:
Whith blacks and hispanics being so highly represented in prison for violemt crimes, why is it that when it comes to serial killings, canibalism, child abuse, and spoucal abuse the highest percentage comes from white people?

When it comes to the "gang-banger" dress and language, I've seen more white teens do this than black teens in Detroit!  I kid you not.  In rural Tennessee you will see teen and twenty to thorty somethings wearing baggy pants, talking shizzle while bumping gangsta rap out of their pickups.

It's the oddest thing I've ever seen.

You have it reversed when it comes to the black population embracing the ignorant, felonious, and sociopathic while demeaning the hard working and successful as an "Uncle Tom", or an "Oreo".  And that's where the discussion about race needs to start.  Just as we've educated ourselves about all things firearms, we need to educate ourselves about the reality of the booming middle class and upper class of black people.  Just go to any good sized city and watch the people stream out of their corporte towers.  You'll find the black population of that building will match the percentage of the black population of that community.

Why can't we have them as welcome here as they are there?

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 09:54:09 PM »
@ Twyacht:

You're right, we just passed through.  Perry showed us basicly the housing areas and one small grocery store where milk cost double of what it does here.  (Everything cost double there.)  My wife and I did walk on the Fringe area, which was easy to tell because there were no crowds, when it started to rain.  An undercover cop tried to sell me weed and then we went into a local bar when it started to rain.  No problems at all.

You posted about the sport style riots:
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Usually no personal injuries, and no gunfire, except probably in Detroit which is proof positive of a failed Liberal Minority run city.
I think Hell Night in Detroit is an honored tradition of setting things on fire. I'd like to see a demographic of which ethnic group is most responsible.

I was there for this part and I saw that video posted here recently.  Two things:
First its called "Devil's night"  ;) and it goes on for three days. You should know thta it hit it's peak in the late eighties and has gone down every year since. 
Second:  I'd like to see the demographic, too.  I bet you''d see a bigger percentage of Canadians and suburbanites than you expected.  Pyromania is listed as being caused by young whilte males and I bet this demographic loves to sneek in and start their own fires with those caused by the fringe group inside the city.

If gunfire from a sproting event is proof of a failed liberal minroity run city what do you call those rural conservative cities where people neglegently shoot their guns on the fourth of july and new years eve?  Myakka City, Sarsota, Arcadia, Decker -MI, Punta Gorda, Cleveland -TN.  Mainly white people there.

Did we join roughly the same time?  I think it might be.   ;D  I like how you say "Mostly responsible" and not completely repsonsible.  We need to work on that.  (That means my statements as well.)

I don't want a politically correct approach to discussion.  I want better worderd discussions that properly communicate the issue at hand.  Right now I am seeing a broad stroke approach.

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facts are hard to argue with...

Yes.  The fact is not all people of a city partake in the riot of that city.  The fact that in a area that has a high percentage of minorities living ther, there will be a high percentage of minorities policing to keep the area safe to the best of their ability.

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Did you know there are still 22 unsolved murders from the L.A. Riots?

Did you know there were 20 buried bodies of muder victims in the undeveloped area where my first house with my wife was?  A white seerial killer proudly told the police exactly where to find them.  Without his confession, those 20 murders would be unsloved too.

As for taking the high road and lurking through the posts.  If you double check, you will see that there are many posts accusing minorities of causing problems and damn few praising them for their accomplishments.

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I live in Literalville.

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The "race baiters" like Sharpton and Jackson, Farrakhan, even BHO, whip a certain ethnic group into a state, and if the outcome is not satisfying for them,....They take to the streets....

That would be a generalization and wrong.  The proper "Literal" way to say this would be  "certain faction of an ethnic group"

And that's where the problem is.  Broad strokes and accusing generalizations when precise, thin line accuracies are needed to properly communicate the thought.

Or to put it this way:  You need to tighten up your groupings when it comes to your communications cause your wide spread pattern is hitting everyone.

I've seen those other forums you've talked about.  I've seen non-gun forums that make this place look down right PC when it comes to wording and pictures.  I've also seen sites that are really strict when it comes to expressing yourself.  (leverguns.com)  I think we can step up our game and communicate better without becoming PC or superstrict.

Let's see if I can put this in another way to communicate this better.

Do you remmeber how Michael Bane called the ruger Rimfire Challenge the large end of the funnel?  Well that's what I would like this site to be when it comes to people who own firearms, curious about firearms, or curious about the culture.

Right now it seems like we're at the halfway mark of the funnel.  We're missing a good chunk of people who can add so much to our own experience.

When we generalize and misscommunicare, we narrow ourselves to the tiny end of the funnel where less opportunity for new experiences.

Where on this funnel do you want to be and how do we keep membership growing?


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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2012, 10:15:22 PM »
Go research "King Alfred Plan". There is a reason Blacks and  Hispanics are highly represented in the penal system.

One can also research the exploits of Barry Seal, Michael Maholy as well as read he writings of Gary Webb.

If you don't enjoy reading search via YouTube.


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We are ALL being played. We have allowed ourselves to be divided and fail to see the bigger picture.

Godspeed.

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2012, 10:41:11 PM »
I had posted a reply to Ulmus that covered his post, but decided f*ck it, I'm sick of arguing with a broken record and deleted it.
He buys into nearly every piece of liberal crap that comes up.
Why waste my time.
Pearls before swine.

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2012, 11:59:21 PM »
Then we are due for another round when the next miscommunication happens.

Have a good weekend.

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2012, 12:19:03 AM »
Changed my mind.
If we were talking about any other group, if they were still underachieving after 40 of enforced preference the assumption would be that they were either to stupid to grasp the potential, or they were to lazy to do the minimal amount of work required.
But blacks are special, stating the observed obvious is not allowed.
The 1st A guarantees free speech unless you want to point out that Blacks were better citizens, and better off as a whole before the "Civil rights movement".
There was a time when "working like a ni**er" meant some one who put in long long hours at hard physical labor then went home to his family, who he attended church with on Sundays.
Now it means selling drugs, pimping ho's and waiting for the welfare checks to show up at his "baby Mommies"

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Re: As I Predicted,...Just Waiting On The Riots....
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2012, 08:00:32 AM »
There is CAUSE and then there is EFFECT.

 

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