Bob Barr Exploring Presidential Run as Libertarian

[WymoreWrangler]

I personally think McCain takes the republican base for granted, just today on Fox news he said his green agenda will tick off alot of Republicans, talkiing that way isn't going to get that base to the polls for him in November, and Nebraska had it's primary today, I voted for Ron Paul....

[Rastus]

"........You vote on "principle," but in doing so, our nation goes evermore closer to Marxist socialism. "

Exactly my point in voting for McCain...with McCain we just get there a bit later and but we still leave a mess for our children or grandchildren or great-grandchildren to try to clean up. 

As we slowly become desensitized to the "outrages" in life, the shock value that cause's one to act or to change is lost.  The longer we wait to act the more likely it is that there will be no action at all.  The slow death of a nation always results....in the death of a nation.

I guess we differ in that you think we can continue down this path.  History teaches otherwise.

[Hazcat]

Exactly my point in voting for McCain...with McCain we just get there a bit later and but we still leave a mess for our children or grandchildren or great-grandchildren to try to clean up. 

As we slowly become desensitized to the "outrages" in life, the shock value that cause's one to act or to change is lost.  The longer we wait to act the more likely it is that there will be no action at all.  The slow death of a nation always results....in the death of a nation.I guess we differ in that you think we can continue down this path.  History teaches otherwise.

AWWW c'mon Rastus.  The water is just nice and warm, nothing to worry about.  Just lay back and relax.  /s

[m25operator]

Although I doubt it, maybe McCain could convince  Barr to vice president, and We could have an under seer to McCains actions. I watched Bob Barr on the floor and He was a devout 2nd A supporter, He went toe to toe with all the bills put out in the clinton administration.

2nd) I believe the 3rd or 4th party system could work, if We did it like run off elections in Texas. If no candidate, regardless of party, gets 50% or more of  ( in this case the electoral college )  the vote, the lowest candidate drops out and We vote again, until We have a Winner with more than 50% of the vote. I know that could be a hassle, but hell it's worth it. Don't get a new prez until May or June, OK by me.

How many of you would vote for a 3rd party, if it was done this way, and you knew you were not throwing away your vote? The other party's would then know, that in the 1st election they were not the clear winner and MAYBE the party would take notice. I think take us or leave us politics would end.

Now a rant, I may have brought this question up before but here go's.

In 1994 if I remember right, some new republican congressman thought up a bill called the A to Z bill, very simply, when a bill comes up for a vote, the senate and the congress votes on each section of the bill, 1 item at a time. Attach all the pork you want, but each item stands on it's own merit. No more pork barrel attachments skating along for the ride. Line item veto by our representatives.

[tombogan03884]

I'm going to vote my BELEIFS and Damn the consequences. Maybe James Earl Ray had some useful ideas.

[Sponsor]

[Pathfinder]

I'm going to vote my BELEIFS and Damn the consequences. Maybe James Earl Ray had some useful ideas.

Ah, yes. Forget the 7% solution, let's consider the .308 solution. It is something no one here wants, because it will be terrible in its own way, but how long can it be postponed?

[Hazcat]

The "Fourth Box".

[Ron J]

Pathfinder's original post says it best:

We have got to use these events and efforts by lame duck candidates and whatever comes up to help Mr. McCain remember the he needs us more than we need him.

B Hussein Obambi (or b-ho as MB calls him) will be far worse and it would take decades to undo the damage - if we even can.


While McCain has been surrounding himself with conservatives, he still may not be as conservative as I would like.  He has “moments” when he understands what side of the aisle he should be standing on and other “moments” that make us wonder if it's aisle or isle.  We can only hope that he, like other Presidents have done, will listen to his advisors.

However, this election is not about if you want John McCain for President.  This election is not just about you voting for your conscious or beliefs either. While there is due respect for you to stand and vote your mind, this election has a lot more on the table than you voting your mind. 

This election is about whether YOU want Barack Hussein Obama as the President of the United States or not. The reality is simple.  Do you want Obama President?  If you say “YES”, then vote for B-HO or for a 3rd party candidate of your "belief".  Very simple.  Don’t vote McCain and you will have Barack Hussein Obama as your President.  If you say “NO” to having Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama (that I understand is his full legal name) then vote for McCain. 

Once again, at this time there is no 3rd party candidate that will capture enough of the popular vote or electoral vote to win.  When you vote for the 3rd party candidate you are voting for Barack Hussein Obama because it’s one less vote for McCain. 

Sorry.  That is the reality of your vote this election year.  However, if you think your mind or belief is right and that it means more than the future of this country, I guess it's your right ... for now. 

[Hazcat]

Sorry Ron,

The reality is we have a choice.  Continue down a failed path to bigger gov't and less freedom or send a message that we will NOT support that model no matter who pushes it or how long it takes to completely destroy this country.

Here is some reality;

Free health care - ISN'T

Illegal immigration is just that - ILLEGAL

Rights are not granted by the government.

The government is not the solution - it's the problem.

Not voting for McCain is just that - not voting for McCain.  It has NOTHING to do with his opponent.

[Ron J]

Haz,

It’s your right and prerogative to vote as you feel … even if your vote will get Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama elected as our President.  You’re right.  It’s your choice. 

Tell me Haz, when President and Mrs. Obama are dancing at their inaugural in January, will you have any cognitive dissonance with your “choice”?