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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2013, 01:04:40 PM »
no one made them go to that school or live in those dorms.   

No one made that example choose to be a slave, but is is still a violation of the constitution.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2013, 01:17:36 PM »
Here is a thought, how aout the students sueing the university for
1.not providing enough armed security since they can't be armed
2.allowing a convicted felon on campus and access to the apartments

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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 01:41:09 PM »
Dave, there are court rulings that say the police do not have to protect you.     its not strech to have that applied to non leos.  Even if you had an actavist judge, it would be over turned on apeal.   hell the ss can't even protect the pous.  I doubt you will find better security then that.
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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 07:00:20 PM »
Yeah, I know about the SCOTUS rulings and the court system and that is why I don't go to buildings marked as gun free.

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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2013, 07:10:05 PM »
THere you found a solution you are happy( or atleast can live with) about.     if they had  done that...
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2013, 07:17:09 PM »
Dave, there are court rulings that say the police do not have to protect you.     its not strech to have that applied to non leos.  Even if you had an actavist judge, it would be over turned on apeal.   hell the ss can't even protect the pous.  I doubt you will find better security then that.

True.....
But that is where the BEAR part of the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS comes into play. It gives me the right to protect myself when and where others can not.

Gun-free zones on publicly accessible properties are an infringement on the 2nd Amendment.
Period.
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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2013, 07:21:32 PM »
I still believe the university should be held responsible for the felon having access to the apartments and not having enough security since they don't allow residents to protect themselves.

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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2013, 09:39:53 PM »
how do you control a campus that is huge, has 10s of thosuands of students, has access to several froms of transpertation?   its really not easy, or even practical.
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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2013, 10:04:36 PM »
Then why prohibit people from defending themselves?

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Re: Students face being expelled for defending their own lives
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2013, 10:38:08 PM »
You don't need a gun to defend yourself.  A gun is just a tool.  Its software, not hardware.      I can think of several reasons not to allow guns in dorms.  1 liabilty 2 felons/ porbies can't share the room with one, so now you have to ask 2 people about thier personal lives.  3  public affairs night mare.    its really easy to cite liabilty and other intrustions in privacy for having a no gun policy.  Its not so easy to explain why they can have guns.   all it takes is one person to make it thier mission and you will be screwed.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

 

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