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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2014, 10:31:47 AM »
Minor Setback

I knew the front sight hole drifted using the cheap drill press, but it's off more than I find acceptable.  About 3" at 25yds.   And of course I have no way to adjust of windage.   DUH!

I'm thinking a clamp-on front sight mount, now.  Remember, this is an on the cheap project, so under $20 is the goal.  So taking it to a gun smith is out of the question. Two rifles come to mind with barrel band type front sights, a Ruger 10/22 and an M1 Carbine.

My barrel is .665 at the muzzle and from what I can tell a 10/22 standard barrel is .642.  It shouldn't be too hard to file down the barrel a tad to make the 10/22 fit.  Maybe it's time to resurrect my 10/22 project.   I'm looking for a junker 10/22 just for the action.  I'm going to re-barrel and restock it.   I could re-purpose the front sight from that barrel.   

Darn I missed a gun show last weekend.   I have my cut off barrel piece so I can take that around to the show and see what junk I might adapt.    I looked at maybe AR gas block, but they're a tad too large, typically .750, and also too expensive at $40-$100 dollars.

Of course if anyone has a spare 10/22 front sight...

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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2014, 11:36:44 AM »
You might try removing this sight and elongating the screw hole (side-to-side) with a round file and then re-mounting. A little heat should help the epoxy to release.

If you could find a piece of tubing or pipe that will fit snugly to the barrel, mount the sight (weld or silver solder) to a length of that and then silver solder to the barrel (like a barrel-band sight).



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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2014, 11:57:00 AM »
You can silver solder the screw in place then dress it flat and re drill and tap.

I always like touching off with a flat endmill to make a small flat when I am drill round stock.  A file can work too.
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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2014, 12:30:48 PM »
The barrel band front sight base on a 10/22 is an integral part of the barrel not a slip on soldered component. At least that's how mine looks.
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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2014, 09:07:53 PM »
Peg, thanks for the lead, thought the diameter is much too small, it's given me some new places to search.  I think it needs to be windage adjustable, so I'll fill the hole for now.  Already have the old one off.  A few well place raps and it popped right off.

TAB, thanks for the tips.

Jumbofrank,  It must be soldered on, because Brownell's sell new ones.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/front-sights/ruger-10-22-front-sight-prod42911.aspx

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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2014, 12:50:26 PM »
Alf that sight fits over top of the old front sight base which is part of the barrel. You can see it in the video. It may still work for you but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2014, 01:18:56 PM »
That's why I'm taking the cutoff part of the barrel to a gun show and seeing what, for cheap, might be adaptable.

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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2014, 03:14:19 PM »
Small gun show Saturday didn't yield anything.  Bigger one coming up next weekend.

BUT...  and this is why it helps to socialize the problem.  Dealer at the show, wondering why I was carrying 8" of a cutoff barrel around, said to check out Brass Stacker.

TA DA



Basically it's a slip on ring with opposing set screws.  It comes in different Inside Diameters depending on  how much barrel you have left.   Exactly what the dr. ordered.   (I actually ordered it from MountsPlus cause I had a discount there.)

http://brassstacker.com/mosin-nagant/Mosin-Nagant-9130-Front-Sight-Adapter-MN-FSAR.html
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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2014, 05:29:44 PM »
is the barrel tapered?

I would be worried about it rattling around and moving on you.


at the very least I would take a file and dress a flat for the set screws.
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Re: Mosin-Nagant Project
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2014, 10:02:19 PM »
Tab has a good point........you can also mark where the set screws go and dimple the spots with a drill bit..... maybe even drill and tap a third set screw.



Anyhoo, glad you found something that might do the trick.
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