Kel-Tec P50 5.7×28mm Pistol

[Rastus]

I disagree.  It's an effective round for pistols.  It's light to carry, 20 rounds in a mag weigh very little, and there's no recoil to speak of (read that as easier to stay on target).  My wife really likes hers because it's easy to rack a round in the chamber as opposed to the 9mm's and anything more potent than that.  The PS90 has the same good attributes except 50 rounds not 20.  Another strong point is that while being effective on target it does not overpenetrate through walls, etc., which is important when you have children or guests at home.

[tombogan03884]

I disagree.  It's an effective round for pistols.  It's light to carry, 20 rounds in a mag weigh very little, and there's no recoil to speak of (read that as easier to stay on target).  My wife really likes hers because it's easy to rack a round in the chamber as opposed to the 9mm's and anything more potent than that.  The PS90 has the same good attributes except 50 rounds not 20.  Another strong point is that while being effective on target it does not overpenetrate through walls, etc., which is important when you have children or guests at home.

So what ?
You can say the same about 22LR.
Point is, it does nothing that can't be done with existing rounds .
It's just "New".

[Rastus]

It's over 30 years old post-development.  You must be ancient for that to be new.   

[tombogan03884]

It's over 30 years old post-development.  You must be ancient for that to be new.   

And it's still nothing but a curiosity which makes my point.
I could sell a turd if I marketed it right.
Look at the Kriss Vector how many of you get all exited about that useless POS.
This  culture wide stupidity is why gun mags all suck.

[alfsauve]

I think the 5.7x28mm is more than a curiosity.   Adapted by quite a few services and from a  PDW perspective out performs other pistol calibers by a wide margin.   Defeating Level III armor at 220yds isn't really doable by other pistol rounds.  And  I think the sub-sonic loading provides some very interesting ballistics beyond it's use with silencers.   

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[Rastus]

Tom we will continue to disagree because it is an effective round for what it is.  It is light and small so you can carry a lot of rounds in a pistol.  With the PS90 it has 50 rounds stock.  The round doesn't overpenetrate and it does the job.

It's double the velocity of a 22 LR from a pistol so yes, I have carried the 5.7.  I have never carried a 22LR or 22 mag for defense. 

And no, you can't say the same thing about the 22LR and be honest about it because it's apples to oranges.  The 22 LR is a slug puppy in a pistol....I don't want to be shot by one but there's a big loss in what little velocity it does start with.  In fact, the 22 Magnum can only scoot maybe 1,300 FPS from a pistol barrel....which is still a lot less than a 5.7.   Most, but now not all because of the PMR 30, of the 22 mag rounds are rifle powder slower burning rounds so there's quite a flash of unburned powder when you do shot one.  Not so much with the 5.7.

[alfsauve]

.... The 22 LR is a slug puppy in a pistol....

Slug Puppy.  Much more descriptive than my "thud".

[Rastus]

Well, it's the best I could come up with at the time.

[Frank07]

I have it and it is very good

[Big Frank]

cool

I agree. But, not a whole lot else going for it. One of my brothers who already had an FN Five-seveN wasn't interested in this at all but snatched up a Ruger 57 when he saw those.