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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2009, 05:32:33 PM »
I just watched the sequence again on the DVR.... What you are actually seeing is him adjusting the jacket. He didn't "draw and reholster" as I saw it, he "gripped, realized he had the jacket tangled up, released and re-gripped".

Take another look if you get the chance on DVR, in re-runs or on DVD (if we get that worked out in the future).

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Thanks for the clarification, that is why I asked!  Suspected I was seeing something wrong.

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2009, 05:36:15 PM »
Last nights episode (#8) was very empowering in thought!!  Kudos & congrats on a great showing!!  Sometimes avoidance and observation are key to a critical / threatening situation!!

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2009, 07:27:29 AM »
Excellent episode. The discussion of what to do after the incident is highly valuable.
More focus should be made to that line of thought.

But in recent news this is relevant:
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1 dead, one injured in Miami Burger King shooting (Armed customer kills robber!!!)
Miami Herald ^ | 3/24/09 | BY ROBERT SAMUELS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH


One man was killed and another seriously wounded in a shootout inside a Miami Burger King on Tuesday, officials said.

Police said a man wearing a ski mask walked into the store at Biscayne Boulevard and 54th Street and demanded money from a clerk.

A customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, pulled a gun, said Officer Jeff Giordano, a Miami police spokesman.

The customer and robber exchanged fire.

The robber was shot dead at the scene.

The customer, who had several gunshot wounds, was taken to Ryder Trauma Center in serious but stable condition, said Lt. Ignatius Carroll, a Miami Fire Rescue spokesman.

At about 4 p.m., officials got several 911 calls reporting people shot inside the Burger King.


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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 06:58:13 AM »
I wanted to bring this scenario back up.

On the 13th of this month my work place was for the robbed 1st time, and one of the two BG was displayed a handgun.
Luckily they only wanted some cash and were in and out in under 2min without harming anyone.
I was in the back and witnessed one BG jumping back over the counter and the pair running out.
I was able to get a good look at the getaway car, and it made all the difference as the local PD put out its APB.
One BG was arrested at the car with the cash within 30min and the other found a few days later.

In this situation, a firearm would have not made a difference. Instead I was a good witness and the BG still got put away!

Most important there was no physical harm done.
-Mental may be a different story for the counter girl.-
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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 09:37:18 AM »
Dear Steyr:

I am very glad to hear that nobody was harmed in the incident. Based on your account of the events, you did EXACTLY the right thing. I'm confident that your efforts to focus and remember key details of the robbers' and vehicle descriptions made all the difference. Whether that was inspired by the TBD episode or just a product of your own personal training and commitment is immaterial; it was the best thing to do and you did it well.

Congratulations on a job well done!

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2009, 07:06:46 PM »
Seemed a little biased the way it was presented.  In the scenario where the good guy got shot, the BG never really took his eyes off the GG.  The GG drew and the BG shot him.  In the recreation showing a "better" way to do it, the BG took his eyes off the GG to yell at the lady trying to use her cell phone, the GG drew and repositioned and shot the BG.  What would the GG have done if the BG never took his eyes off, as in the 1st scenario?  I think he may have needed to have done nothing as he couldn't have drawn without drawing attention and risking being shot.

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2009, 07:30:51 AM »
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What would the GG have done if the BG never took his eyes off, as in the 1st scenario?  I think he may have needed to have done nothing as he couldn't have drawn without drawing attention and risking being shot.

Yes, Azs, that was exactly the point.

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 09:53:26 AM »
Got it.  Agree.

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 10:27:42 PM »
Dear Steyr:

I am very glad to hear that nobody was harmed in the incident. Based on your account of the events, you did EXACTLY the right thing. I'm confident that your efforts to focus and remember key details of the robbers' and vehicle descriptions made all the difference. Whether that was inspired by the TBD episode or just a product of your own personal training and commitment is immaterial; it was the best thing to do and you did it well.

Congratulations on a job well done!

Stay safe,

Mike

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Re: Episode #8: Convenience Store
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2009, 03:47:29 AM »
hey,a newbie here,i too missed the part of the episode where if it was safe to shoot,then shoot(i dozed off during the commercial before that part came on),i gather by the responses that ,if it is safe to shoot the robber,then do so if you feel harm or danger to you or others.my father was a retired highway patrol,but passwd away in 1993,so my my question is poised to rob or micheal.enjoy the show,thanks.................................

 

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