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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #350 on: November 21, 2020, 04:48:36 PM »
Vista Outdoor Back Ordered to the tune of $1 Billion.

Vista Outdoor, owner of the Federal, CCI, Speer, and Remington brands of ammunition, announced that they have back orders that extend over a year, and amount to over a billion dollars of orders at wholesale cost.

I didn't read it yet but saw the headline.

https://www.gunnuts.net/2020/11/13/vista-outdoor-back-ordered-to-the-tune-of-1-billion/


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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #351 on: November 22, 2020, 10:13:46 PM »
I am not shocked.   When can had freedom week they bought the country  out of mags.  That is only a small % of the population.  Now it is about 50% of the population is buying guns/ ammo.

I have not bought any ammo in a long time, but did buy a couple of used guns
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #352 on: November 23, 2020, 08:33:05 AM »
Vista Outdoor Back Ordered to the tune of $1 Billion.

Vista Outdoor, owner of the Federal, CCI, Speer, and Remington brands of ammunition, announced that they have back orders that extend over a year, and amount to over a billion dollars of orders at wholesale cost.

I didn't read it yet but saw the headline.

https://www.gunnuts.net/2020/11/13/vista-outdoor-back-ordered-to-the-tune-of-1-billion/


I knew I wasn't imaging this.
 

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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #353 on: November 23, 2020, 10:21:27 AM »
Federal includes not just all the Federal brands for ammo, but their primers and the Alliant brand of powder.  (Think Bullseye, Unique, Power Pistol, etc.)

CCI includes the Blazer brand.

Remington could be a black hole.  Their primer production wasn't doing to well to begin with, then the Flu and the bankruptcy.  In order to keep the Remington ammo brand alive Vista might have to utilize Federal and CCI primers. 

All told, buy when you can, hoard what you can.  It's going to be a long dry 2021.
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #354 on: November 23, 2020, 10:40:09 AM »
And if you haven't seen Powder Valley's article on the subject.

https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/why-is-there-a-primer-supply-shortage/

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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #355 on: November 24, 2020, 07:31:51 AM »
Good article.
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #356 on: November 24, 2020, 08:30:08 AM »
"In the U.S., only four companies (Winchester, Remington, Federal, and CCI) manufacture primers for civilian use, law enforcement, and the military."

Worldwide there are also these 3...

https://ammoterra.com/primers-manufacturer-makers

Plus Fiocchi, along with Wolf in Russia also manufacturers them. Graf & Sons, Widener's, and Powder Valley all sell them. And I know Cheddite makes shotgun primers for reloaders. A lot of trapshooters use them.
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #357 on: November 24, 2020, 09:25:21 AM »

Other primer manufacturers:

And Volga makes cars but I ain't buyin' them. 
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #358 on: November 24, 2020, 09:58:06 AM »
Fiocchi has been making primers and ammo 40 years longer than Federal.
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Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
« Reply #359 on: November 24, 2020, 11:37:02 AM »
Have never been able to find any Fiocchi primers for sale locally.  And of course right now, nada anyway.

I was really referring to the  Wolf and Eastern European stuff.  Not buying their ammo, not buying their primers.

BTB, on the subject of Fiocchi, had 3 squibs in 1,000rd box.  I let them know.  They were most apologetic and want to replace the whole lot.
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