DEFENSIVE ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING -- IS IT VALUEABLE ? ?

[texcaliber]

The active shooter training can be a good branch into all aspects of training of force on force and life in general. This will most likely be the bridge to provide the urge to seek more, and better for your individual needs/wants training. In all likelihood  needed is more like wanted training. So is it VALUEABLE??

Yes, but. It would break the ice more as a promoter for more individualized training where some would be intimidated without.

[Jackel]

its a better way to spend tax money than on OBAMA phones to.

[2HOW]

For the civilian carrier, active shooter training should only consist of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,RUN, help those less able and get out of dodge.
Fire only if fired upon.

[Rastus]

My preface was defensive to get away but to protect if necessary.  I guess I will always respectfully disagree and say that civilians who are up to it should get training to stop an active shooter.  And as prefaced that as a civilian, at least in my state, I have no rights under the law to defend those who are not my legal dependents or employees and will face prosecution if I choose to run afoul of the law instead of watching innocents be slaughtered waiting on someone authorized to show up.   

Bottom line, I have absolutely no desire to be shot in the back with my family as we run away waiting for law enforcement to show up on a developing scene...that is not a slight on law enforcement...just a fact that they can't be everywhere all the time.  I want the best chance I can get to defend my family so they can get away unharmed; that's one of the reasons I carry concealed.  What happens to me is secondary other than the absolute primary task that if required I must be successful to protect dependents in my care by whatever means are necessary.

I disagree that running is the right thing for all citizens to do in every conceivable encounter. 

[tombogan03884]

Another thing to think of is that in that sort of panic situation exits will get jammed, you could very easily find yourself in a situation where you have a panicked mob between you and the exit and the armed BG approaching.
In that case your choices are , be a victim or return fire and take your chances with the responding cops.

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[Rastus]

Another thing to think of is that in that sort of panic situation exits will get jammed, you could very easily find yourself in a situation where you have a panicked mob between you and the exit and the armed BG approaching.
In that case your choices are , be a victim or return fire and take your chances with the responding cops.

Exactly.  A mob can kill by sheer force "just as dead" as you would be with a 7.62 x 39 perforating you in inappropriate places.

[TAB]

I'm sure it has some value, but your training time/ money would be better off spent else where.

[texcaliber]

I'm sure it has some value, but your training time/ money would be better off spent else where.

This is probably true but the force on force training would help individuals to see their own flaws/week points and seek more specific training to fill the skill toolbox.

[r_w]

I'm sure it has some value, but your training time/ money would be better off spent else where.

I am going to say that there is little difference between a civilian active shooter response and the "stop and rob" scenerio in season one of TBD.  I am not saying that an average civilian should try to enter and clear, but find cover/concealment without drawing attention and engage when an opening presents itself or all other options are gone.

[texcaliber]

I am going to say that there is little difference between a civilian active shooter response and the "stop and rob" scenerio

The primary difference in my opinion is going to be the post shooting actions. More important for the "stop n rob" to be complainant and point out evidence and witnesses.