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fightingquaker13

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2010, 11:00:14 PM »
As I watched this video, it came to mind that many of us on this site are CCW licensed.  That fact alone suggests that many of us have willingly assumed the role of "sheep dog" rather than the role of "sheeple."  As voluntary protectors of our selves, our families and our bretheren, we are obligated to eliminate or minimize risks, as or wherever we see it.  It also means we should see it.  That may mean taking the car keys of our fellows who may have had a bit more than necessary, or providing a couch when needed, or having a sober talk the following day when and if required.  This video has been an excellent reminder that, in many ways, we are our brothers' keeper.  Thanks, M'ette, for keeping us all alert.
Well said. When I was younger, I still wouldn't drive drunk, but I would get into the car with someone who was. This was a BS, cowardly position, but I was a teenager and didn't realize it. Now I do. I WILL take the keys from a friend and pay for their cab if I have to, rather than ask if they're sober enough to "aim" the car straight. (I often wondered how teenagers can know everything and be so damn stupid at the same time. I guess I just answered my wn question.) :-\ Thing is, as Crusader points out, the CCW helps. It reminds me I can't have more than one of anything if I'm carrying, and if I think I'm too impared to carry I shouldn't be driving either. So if I do go out to a nice dinner where I will have a drink and some wine with my meal I leave the gun and car keys at home and take a cab. Its the best $40 you'll ever spend.
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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 11:42:10 PM »
My half brother was in a drunk driving accident in Fla. in the late 90's, He is due to get out of jail soon, and personally I think he deserved every day of it. The lady in the other car will NEVER be getting released from her wheel chair.

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 12:24:58 AM »
Cool, and emotional, video.  Don't ever booze without knowing that there is a place to sleep it off, just ain't worth it.  Never been too worried about getting hurt in automobile accidents, but the knowledge that my negligence could hurt another person would be too much for me.  Personally, if people are drinking at my place, I either tell them they've passed my limit and are staying the night or your cut off but enjoy some sodas.  First thing I ask when I'm somewhere else, 'you gotta place I can crash, or am I driving home?'  I've given various rides home to coworkers at office parties because I don't trust them when they say, 'I'll call a cab.'  Again video was entertaining...any body ever see those bad Final Destination movies?

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 12:34:33 AM »
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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 12:38:35 AM »
I've got a bunch of metal in my back thanks to a drunk driver...
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2010, 12:32:00 PM »
These things go in waves. Its very much a generational thing. Its like drugs. In the sixties and seventies it was the norm. By the eighties, it was no longer so much fun and people saw the downside. The Boomers kids were bombarded by adds and they more or less worked. In the nineties though, drug use went up again as the real life examples of why this was a bad idea (crack houses and such) faded out of view.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/80477002.html

"Arizona's 16 DUI task forces around the state made more than 14,000 driving-under-the-influence arrests in 2009 including nearly 4,500 from Thanksgiving to New Year's.

Those figures are up from 2008 when the task forces made some 10,500 DUI arrests but only about 2,700 from the Thanksgiving-to-Jan. 1 holiday span."


FQ 13 is right on the money here. In Arizona we have some of the toughest drunk driving laws in the nation. No matter, drunk driving arrests, and accidents are UP, big time. This will continue simply because we have allowed alcohol to become big business in this country, as well as a big part of peoples lives. Tougher laws, mandatory jail time, "alcohol awareness" programs, movies much like this one showing dead babies being pushed out of windshields, blood and guts galore won't change this. It never has, and it never will, because people like to drink. When they do their thinking is in an altered state, and this kind of stuff happens. Then comes the crying and sorrow over the senseless, loss.

I'm sorry to sound cold, but I'm tired of all of it. It will never stop. We are hypocrites in this country when it comes to booze. We have Anheuser Bush spending upwards of $2 million dollars a minute for a Super Bowl commercial slot to tell us to "Know When To Say When". And other brilliant deductions like "Friends Don't Let Friends Drive Drunk".

It reminds me of the movie "Scarface" when Al Pacino was drunk in the fancy restaurant. He staggered around and said, "You Americans have to have someone to point your filthy fingers at and say, see him, he's the bad guy!" This is true. The drunk driver makes the perfect bad guy. The problem is we have built a society around him that not only helps create him, but then is appalled at the results of his actions. It makes no sense.

It all revolves around the dollar. Always has, always will. The liquor and beer companies rake in the cash from manufacturing the product. The cities and municipalities rake in more cash through the sale of liquor licenses and taxes imposed on the sale of the stuff. Have you ever seen a bar without a parking lot? They further line their coffers with more cash from the fines, court costs, and other fees they make off the drunk driver. "Traffic Schools", "Alcohol Rehabilitation", and all of this other nonsense that works about as well as a Timex that was run over by a semi. How would they replace all of that revenue if everyone did the right thing and stopped? They wouldn't and couldn't. They just keep on bitching about how bad drunk driving is in all of these "public service announcements", and on the backside they rake in cash from all of it.

To be perfectly honest the drunk driving doesn't bother me as much as all of the hypocritical nonsense that goes with it. We don't take alcohol seriously in this country. Sure, when you see a movie like this it makes you think, but 5 minutes later the thought is gone. Nothing has worked to reduce this, and nothing will. I don't like it anymore than anyone else does, but I have learned to accept it, and defend myself from it. I drink at home. We very rarely go out in the evening. I can't even remember the last time I went to a bar. I've done my share of drunk driving when I was younger and dumber, and was lucky enough to never have had a DWI. I have had friends, acquaintances, and co workers killed in booze related accidents. Nothing will ever change that. If we could have changed it, the results would show it. They show just the opposite, it's once again on the rise, and the money, booze, and blood will keep on flowing. Rant over. Bill T.

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2010, 02:15:57 PM »
In line with Bill's rant, it is interesting to note that the first tax imposed by the US government on citizens was the Whiskey tax.

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2010, 02:34:34 PM »
Prohibition worked so well.
I would mention the drinking of alcohol predates the USA by several thousand years. Commerce in wines ands spirts also thousands of years old.

Having grown up with two alcoholic parents I don't blame Budwieser, Seagrams or Gallo for their problems.

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2010, 02:46:04 PM »
Before automobiles they were falling off horses and hitting their heads on rocks. Booze has been around far longer than cars.  Bill T.

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Re: A very graphic video about driving!!
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2010, 03:27:17 PM »
Have you ever seen a bar without a parking lot?

Yes, several!  But that was because the whole city block was a series of bars....Key West, FL...

The whole damn city is drunk most of the time... :D

Not trying to be funny here, I don't drink.  Sixteen years now and I've had my share of friends get mamed or killed.  The bar I managed had more parking spaces than seating capacity and there were usually an overflow to the bank next door and the chicken joint accross the street.  Most if not all of our partrons left drunk, every night...it's why I got canned!  I refused to serve a table of drunken rugby players and the boss didn't care.  He owned the place to make money and could give a damn if someone didn't get home afterward.

 

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