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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 05:26:07 PM »
Solus will Please take note that these references DO NOT specify a particular GOD, and are used interchangably with "Creator" to which no one can take exception even today.

There are many that take exception to the term Creator.  Their argument is that the thought of a Creator infers that there is some type of god or higher being.  As you read American books, both factual books and novels, from the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries you will find God, Savior and Creator used interchangably when talking about mortality and impending doom.
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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2008, 02:13:27 AM »
There are many that take exception to the term Creator.  Their argument is that the thought of a Creator infers that there is some type of god or higher being.  As you read American books, both factual books and novels, from the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries you will find God, Savior and Creator used interchangably when talking about mortality and impending doom.

There are also many who object to the round earth theory, Here's something for them.

86% of Americans believe in God, The other 14% should shut up and be thankful for what the rest of us have given them.
(I could not find the original E mail, it was more nicely worded and FAR more insulting to those unbelievers who think sunsets and babies come from congress.)

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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2008, 08:59:52 AM »
I am just catching up with this post.  My thoughts …

Doubt me too Tab. 

You need to take into consideration that when the founders of our Republic were framing the premise of "freedom of religion" there was not the issues or variety of religions in America that we have today.  Then, it was more to which Christian church versus where today you would frame this as to which religion. 

As to taking the words of the Bible literally; this is something that if more people did, we would have a lot less problems in this world.  Not saying that women must wear hats to worship but that the Old and the New Testament have great lessons for us.

Solus … If I read your posts right, you are making the case for equality for all people regardless of religion.  That’s fine but the fact remains is that our country was founded on Christian values.  Given the majority of Americans believing in God and that our foundation was built of Christian values, if someone doesn’t like the Ten Commandments on the wall of the US Supreme Court or that our currency says “In God We Trust”, I would suggest they find another country to live in. 

Another way to look at this is like taking an “eraser” to our Christian foundation is like trying to use “white-out” on the 2nd Amendment. 

To the original point of this thread, Barack Hussein Obama had belonged to a radical church with a mission statement to follow Black Liberation Theology.  This is a religion (or cult) that was formed around Marxist ideology.  We do need to question BHO beliefs. 


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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2008, 10:38:59 AM »
You need to take into consideration that when the founders of our Republic were framing the premise of "freedom of religion" there was not the issues or variety of religions in America that we have today.  Then, it was more to which Christian church versus where today you would frame this as to which religion. 

Ron, that is the point I was trying to make, and here you go and make it so easily and so eloquently. Good job.
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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2008, 11:15:26 AM »
Ron, that is the point I was trying to make, and here you go and make it so easily and so eloquently. Good job.

What he said!!!
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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2008, 12:20:11 PM »
I am just catching up with this post.  My thoughts …

Doubt me too Tab. 

You need to take into consideration that when the founders of our Republic were framing the premise of "freedom of religion" there was not the issues or variety of religions in America that we have today.  Then, it was more to which Christian church versus where today you would frame this as to which religion. 

As to taking the words of the Bible literally; this is something that if more people did, we would have a lot less problems in this world.  Not saying that women must wear hats to worship but that the Old and the New Testament have great lessons for us.

Solus … If I read your posts right, you are making the case for equality for all people regardless of religion.  That’s fine but the fact remains is that our country was founded on Christian values.  Given the majority of Americans believing in God and that our foundation was built of Christian values, if someone doesn’t like the Ten Commandments on the wall of the US Supreme Court or that our currency says “In God We Trust”, I would suggest they find another country to live in. 

Another way to look at this is like taking an “eraser” to our Christian foundation is like trying to use “white-out” on the 2nd Amendment. 

To the original point of this thread, Barack Hussein Obama had belonged to a radical church with a mission statement to follow Black Liberation Theology.  This is a religion (or cult) that was formed around Marxist ideology.  We do need to question BHO beliefs. 

Exactly.
No one will ever convince this gray-bearded old country boy that BHO spent 20 years as a member of the "Good Reverend Wright's" (if you can call him that) congregation and failed to absorb anything from the endless rants and diatribe that the congregation was subjected to (by their own choice, I might add). If BHO didn't see eye-to-eye with Wright's position on American values, why did he wait so long to seperate himself. It didn't seem to be an issue to BHO until he realized that it might reflect poorly on his bid for POTUS.
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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2008, 08:32:23 PM »
Exactly.
No one will ever convince this gray-bearded old country boy that BHO spent 20 years as a member of the "Good Reverend Wright's" (if you can call him that) congregation and failed to absorb anything from the endless rants and diatribe that the congregation was subjected to (by their own choice, I might add). If BHO didn't see eye-to-eye with Wright's position on American values, why did he wait so long to seperate himself. It didn't seem to be an issue to BHO until he realized that it might reflect poorly on his bid for POTUS.

You got it!

Remember that when he split with the church he publicly announced that the reason was that he feared remaining a member would harm his political career.  He tried to make comments earlier about disagreeing, but he was caught in the fact that this has been going on for years, and the leaders were close friends and one was a mentor.

My latest revelation is that this man does not understand the meaning of Republic.  He is strictly about public opinion.  Shall we go back to the Bible he does not respect and quote passages on solid rock and shifting sand?  Mr. Obama reminds me of shifting sand ... oh oh oh oh oh ... is that a new poll coming out ... yep ... hang on for the latest stance.
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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2008, 10:44:34 PM »
You got it!

Remember that when he split with the church he publicly announced that the reason was that he feared remaining a member would harm his political career.  He tried to make comments earlier about disagreeing, but he was caught in the fact that this has been going on for years, and the leaders were close friends and one was a mentor.

My latest revelation is that this man does not understand the meaning of Republic.  He is strictly about public opinion.  Shall we go back to the Bible he does not respect and quote passages on solid rock and shifting sand?  Mr. Obama reminds me of shifting sand ... oh oh oh oh oh ... is that a new poll coming out ... yep ... hang on for the latest stance.

X-ring!  I agree with what you Pegleg and Pathfinder say! 

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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2008, 07:33:21 PM »
Read all the posts, and have let it all be absorbed what "little gray matter" I have left.

Evidently BHO didn't read Deuteronomy too well at Rev. Wrights church:

"Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully His commandments, that the Lord will set you high above all nations of the earth. And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord. Deu. 28: 1-2.

That sounds like bad advice for America?

Good 'ol Abe Lincoln wrote; "But for the Bible we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable from man's welfare "are to be found in it."

The wisdom of the Bible also describes Barack to a "T"

"But there were also false prophets, among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in damnable heresies, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways." 2 Peter 2: 1,2.

It goes against every grain this country was founded on.

I hope more people realize as we get closer to Nov. How dangerous it will be to make him President.
Maybe Rick Warren should get a copy of this video, and invite him back for Saddleback Rd. 2. and maybe BHO need to read American History.

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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2008, 07:53:07 PM »

"But there were also false prophets, among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in damnable heresies, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways." 2 Peter 2: 1,2.


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