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Baldwin charged.
« on: January 19, 2023, 03:29:55 PM »
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About time.  He was clearly at least negligent.   My evil side says he did it on purpose, but not sure how you could prove that.    Either way it is sad that people lost thier life.
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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2023, 06:18:25 PM »
How about the assistant director, who took a plea deal?  He was the last one to inspect the gun before Baldwin fired it.  Could he have put the live rounds in the gun?
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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2023, 08:43:56 PM »
Reports that he had live ammo on his gun belt.   Remember  they went shooting with this gun the day before.     In the end he still pointed it at some one and pulled the trigger.
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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2023, 10:51:32 PM »
He damn well should be charged. He violated EVERY gun safety rule in the book. I'm getting sick and tired of people blaming this on the armorer. While she most certainly wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, (and remember HE hired her), that was all the more reason for him to check the weapon, and not deliberately point it at anyone, even after he did.

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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 10:30:20 PM »
It was his finger on the trigger. He should have been charged a long time ago.
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Re: Baldwin charged.
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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 11:12:38 PM »
He sunk himself by talking too much. His own lawyers told him to STFU, and stay away from the press. Instead, he ran straight for them giving interviews.

He lied by saying he never pulled the trigger. Anyone, especially him having appeared in countless westerns, knows you cannot possibly fire a single action revolver unless your finger is not only on the trigger, but depressing it. Thereby allowing the hammer to fall, regardless of what "notch" it is resting in.

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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2023, 02:23:44 AM »
How about the assistant director, who took a plea deal? He was the last one to inspect the gun before Baldwin fired it.

I think this is what is going to get Hanna, (Thell Reed's daughter, and the armorer), off the hook. She has been charged as well. Regardless of what she did, or didn't do. Or what she should have done, she was NOT the last one to handle that weapon.

It passed through at least 2 other peoples hands after she last touched it, (Dave Hall, and Baldwin himself). And Dave Hall declared the weapon "cold" just before he handed it to Baldwin. (This he himself admitted in police interviews). So regardless of how careful she was or wasn't, she cannot be held responsible for any weapon that continues to be handled by others before it discharges, killing one and wounding another.

Looking at this whole thing in that context, I can't believe he was even offered a plea deal. He is far more "convictable" than she is. Based on the fact of his admission the gun was "cold" when it was not. Why would you declare a weapon as such, without personally inspecting it yourself? If he had, he would have found the live rounds, and this never would have happened.

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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2023, 05:30:12 PM »
Baldwin's constant ramblings in public and in the media are what is putting him in jeopardy. If he would have taken the advice of his legal team he would have SHUT UP. Had he not blabbed about not pointing and not pulling the trigger, his ability to ignorance concerning firearms would have carried more weight.  He best defense was, and still could be, that he knows only what he is told and taught by the expert armorers on the sets. He could put the entire incident back in the responsibility of those feeding him the information.

Now his attorneys not only need to prove his ignorance and reliance on "experts," but also go to the trauma induced skewed information that makes him remember things differently than what actually happened.
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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2023, 06:09:46 PM »
Looks like Hollywood liberals need a good dose of OSHA like the rest of us get.

Why in the heck do they use guns that can chamber real rounds?  Blanks is blanks...they should make it so real rounds cannot be chambered in any way, shape, form, or fashion.  Make a fake gun just like the news they create so eagerly.

Restrict live rounds off the set except for LEO's.  Guns cannot chamber a round.  Heck, make the things look centerfire and take rimfire blanks...whatever. 

Nothing has been done to avoid this type of possibility because it would cost Hollywood $$$$'s.  Bottom line.  They sure don't give a heck about the little guy paying out the nose for dubious benefit, why can't they pay a pittance in their world to protect people?  Money grubbers.....
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Re: Baldwin charged.
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2023, 03:54:30 AM »
Aaaaand they dropped the charges against him.  …but some animals are more equal than others.


 

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